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Should Lira wear sneakers to weddings? (pg. 8)
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| shaw |
| quote: | Originally posted by Miss Pie
I just don't understand the try-hardness of it. It's juvenile. |
That's what's setting people off, Lira. It's something everyone would expect from kingcharlesj or the dna hippie. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Miss Pie
I just don't understand the try-hardness of it. It's juvenile. |
It's because there's nothing to be understood. Absolutely nothing other than the fact that I reckon it looks good, I feel good wearing it and, if I can, I do it. It's not unlike my plaid shirts, my cargo pants, my piercings, my... wait, the list is over.
If I were trying to make a fashion statement, I'd side with you and say I'm trying too hard, because no one that matters will be at the wedding in order to appreciate the fashion statement or whatever it is that fashion statements do.
If I were trying to be original, I'd agree with you because that's trying too hard and failing miserably, because this is anything but original.
If I were trying to be disrespectful, I don't even think this should count because there are way more effective ways to show disrespect towards someone else. Fortunately, however, I've never met someone I despised so much that I could throw insults at, so I don't even know how I could outdo myself in this case.
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And, if you guys didn't mind this, I wouldn't ever ever think about it. When I realised I could do it, I did and no one ever even cared... why do you think I'm having fun with this commotion? It was something as natural to me as wearing the suit!
If you really must know, I only seem to confuse people around here when I wear a tie under my pullover when I want to look good: apparently, that's too formal... |
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| Silky Johnson |
| Yeah, I'm not really buying it. Thou dost protest too much. :p |
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| igottaknow |
| quote: | Originally posted by Miss Pie
Yeah, I'm not really buying it. Thou dost protest too much. :p |
if he didn't think there was anything wrong with it why did he ask for her permission? |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| If I get married, I'm specifically having a non-formal-required dress code. I'd rather have everyone feel comfortable, happy and relaxed than jumping through the arbitrary hoops of convention. As if it could possibly matter what one of your guests is wearing on their feet on the supposedly happiest day of your life. |
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| Lira |
It comes as no surprise that I agree with Sys, I guess :)
| quote: | Originally posted by Miss Pie
Yeah, I'm not really buying it. Thou dost protest too much. :p |
Who? Me? Writing too much about an otherwise trivial topic and theorising endlessly about it, looking for different analyses and insights?!
Shut up, now that's something I wouldn't ever do! :toothless
| quote: | Originally posted by igottaknow
if he didn't think there was anything wrong with it why did he ask for her permission? |
Actually, you're right on this one. I was so shocked by your* reaction around here that I actually thought to myself "Whoa, this is bad!?" and decided to check. Before that, it had never occurred to me to do such a thing.
I was really taken aback the first time. I can't tell you how surprised I was by the response I got, otherwise I wouldn't have ever ever posted that bloody picture.
* By "your" I mean "of you all", not specifically yours, Pete :p |
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| Lilith |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
It's because there's nothing to be understood. Absolutely nothing other than the fact that I reckon it looks good, I feel good wearing it and, if I can, I do it. It's not unlike my plaid shirts, my cargo pants, my piercings, my... wait, the list is over. |
Sooner you become comfortable being an individual in your mind and actions instead of wearing an identity, life gets a lot easier to get dressed in the morning. I'm still me in a $30 no-name tracksuit and bunny slippers as much as I'm still me in a Harvey Berin dress and Dior shoes... a horrible person, but each has its place :p |
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| Fledz |
| quote: | Originally posted by igottaknow
My feet hurt too but I love these shoes. Timberland Madison Summit, they're built like a sneaker on the inside and look formal enough on the outside.
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Those are not formal shoes, but they are certainly at least a little bit more appropriate than sneakers. Still wouldn't wear these with a suit though, they are shoes for jeans.
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
Actually, I'm pretty much against women wearing high heels just for the sake of it. Even with gala dresses, women do look better with trainers. For example, here's Sarah Silverman (a comedian, I know):
And some girls I don't know:
I bet that's a more comfortable footwear than any pair of high heels money can buy. And they look cuter too. |
That is the worst thing I have ever seen. None of them should ever have been allowed onto the red carpet.
| quote: | Originally posted by noikeee
Keep in mind the whole cultural differences thing... I don't think it's a coincidence the angry answers are mostly from the folks from North America.
Not sure what's it like on Brazil, but over here basically what happens is that I always go formal just to be sure, only to find out there's a bunch of wankers that got away with dressing half-formal and nobody gives a . Though I do think people are a bit stricter with weddings than other formal occasions, not sure why. |
It's not cultural. I've worked with endless numbers of South Americans, most of which were Brazilians and sneakers with a suit were always a big no no. Some of these people were even bigger hippies than Lira is too. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
If I'm correct, Canadians in general seem to be most hostile to this quirk of mine than most other people |
Likely because we're a people who put some importance on proper manners and expressions of respect for those around us; subsequently, it rubs us the wrong way when someone goes out of their way to be a cunt. |
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| igottaknow |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
Cool, my shoes are black and my suit is dark grey :toocool: |
If you watch the GQ youtube video they actually recommend the opposite. Meaning if your going to break the rules you should go all the way and wear white sneakers with a dark suit. And I agree the contrast sets it off nicely.
One caveat I'll add is that celebrities and models can pull this off because of who they are, how they look, and where they are. Most normal schlubs can't and they interpret ppl staring at them because they are taken with their fashion savvy while really the opposite is going through their minds.
| quote: | Originally posted by Fledz
Those are not formal shoes, but they are certainly at least a little bit more appropriate than sneakers. Still wouldn't wear these with a suit though, they are shoes for jeans. |
I know they aren't really proper but I have to wear a suit for my job and do a far amount of walking. I have a nice pair with leather soles for formal occasions but are useless in the winter snow and for my line of work.
| quote: | | It's not cultural. I've worked with endless numbers of South Americans, most of which were Brazilians and sneakers with a suit were always a big no no. Some of these people were even bigger hippies than Lira is too. |
I was going to bring this up but I got tired of arguing with him. I mean you don't dance the Samba and other ballroom dances in sneakers.
I get the feeling Lira is doing this because he is part of this sub cultural Japanese-Punk-Western group where its appeal is breaking traditional norms of the older generations.
| quote: | Originally posted by noikeee
Not sure what's it like on Brazil, but over here basically what happens is that I always go formal just to be sure, only to find out there's a bunch of wankers that got away with dressing half-formal and nobody gives a . Though I do think people are a bit stricter with weddings than other formal occasions, not sure why. |
A general reply to ppl who have said but I've gone to an event and there are "wankers" who dress casual and no one cared. But like you everyone else noticed them and thought less of them whether they bothered to say anything. Its like not dressing properly to an interview the guy isn't going to say anything, you just won't get the job.
All of this boils down to is you CAN do whatever you want but it reflects poorly on you. Take some pride in your appearance. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by igottaknow
I was going to bring this up but I got tired of arguing with him. I mean you don't dance the Samba and other ballroom dances you aren't going to do it in sneakers. |
On a cultural note, I don't think sneakers and ballroom dances ever coexisted: the popularity of ballroom dances declined after the WWII as far as I know, and it was hard to get a pair of athletic shoes back then unless you were an athlete yourself :p
And I'm much less Japanese than you probably think I am ;) |
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| nefardec |
| hipster hitler would launch an assault on your try-hardness |
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