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| EddieZilker |
| Oh, man. I feel for the guy. That might evaporate the next time he lashes out but I feel bad for him, right now. |
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| closedcircle |
Thanks for the good laugh. I've got a pretty thick skin though =). Man I'm 28, written trance, house, techno or whatever you call it since I was 13. Need some better monitors, my current speakers ain't cutting it really. But whatever; I listened to Above and Beyond recently in detail and realized that my "trance" is opposite.
They have highly EQ'D everything so it sounds soft; including the kick drum, high hats, bass lines, pads, and vocals are very restricted to the 1-3K range at least for male vocals. Then the structure of their trance music is about playing 1 chord, with very simple inversions (changing 1 note).
It's strange because in the States here, people are so damn mean about Trance Music. I've had so many people tell me negative things about my music. What I realized is that trance music is psychological. With a fast kick and hh line, then a slower melody, what happens is you focus on the melody and the beat is going so much faster, it feels like you aren't really their (in this world).
So while the music is simple, I guess accepting your demons of the past, all the little people who just hate anything that doesn't fall into there little protected world. Funny now a days I'm a whole lot different, but I've always felt rather isolated to the world you know. Funny when you play your music and like 20% of the people like it and the other 80% just hate your guts with a passion. Not like you peeps too, where you are playing around or even if you are serious it's not with the same mean spirited hatred.
Regardless I listened to a bunch of your folks music and it isn't any better. A wise quote says to be considered a fool, is only to embrace previous fear. I mean if you take a trance song, write it with the same sounds, same structure, then you write a good song. It's really easy for me to hear anything, including my own music and know if it is good (that is one thing), then second is it commercial.
Ironically since everyone is programmed that trance sounds like X. Even if you produce something that sounds somewhat like trance, that is good, it will be rejected. It has to follow specifically trance and have the commercial sound or else it is rejected. If you folks are laughing at me, that's awesome. I can easily pick out the specific parts to every trance song that don't cut it; the difference between commercial and .
Like that dude above that has all the hardware, who made the song with the female vocalist down in SoCal. The song structure is fine, her vocal is 90% their, but your melody harmonic's of the synths were horrid and destroyed the song. Infact the melody was out of tune, and generally sounded like garbage.
If you listen to modern day commercial trance, Above and Beyond, Jaytech, Aly & Fila, Eco, it doesn't sound like half the stuff that people post up here. Maybe my beats are extreme and need to be toned down, but at least they aren't cheese trance. Every sound matters, Compression, EQ'ing matters, Dynamic's, Random Changes. Half the I've heard here makes me laugh, because you might as well be writing the music I've written here, because that is how far off you are from sounding like actual commercial trance music. |
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| Avatar One |
| quote: | Originally posted by closedcircle
Thanks for the good laugh. I've got a pretty thick skin though =). Man I'm 28, written trance, house, techno or whatever you call it since I was 13. Need some better monitors, my current speakers ain't cutting it really. But whatever; I listened to Above and Beyond recently in detail and realized that my "trance" is opposite.
They have highly EQ'D everything so it sounds soft; including the kick drum, high hats, bass lines, pads, and vocals are very restricted to the 1-3K range at least for male vocals. Then the structure of their trance music is about playing 1 chord, with very simple inversions (changing 1 note).
It's strange because in the States here, people are so damn mean about Trance Music. I've had so many people tell me negative things about my music. What I realized is that trance music is psychological. With a fast kick and hh line, then a slower melody, what happens is you focus on the melody and the beat is going so much faster, it feels like you aren't really their (in this world).
So while the music is simple, I guess accepting your demons of the past, all the little people who just hate anything that doesn't fall into there little protected world. Funny now a days I'm a whole lot different, but I've always felt rather isolated to the world you know. Funny when you play your music and like 20% of the people like it and the other 80% just hate your guts with a passion. Not like you peeps too, where you are playing around or even if you are serious it's not with the same mean spirited hatred.
Regardless I listened to a bunch of your folks music and it isn't any better. A wise quote says to be considered a fool, is only to embrace previous fear. I mean if you take a trance song, write it with the same sounds, same structure, then you write a good song. It's really easy for me to hear anything, including my own music and know if it is good (that is one thing), then second is it commercial.
Ironically since everyone is programmed that trance sounds like X. Even if you produce something that sounds somewhat like trance, that is good, it will be rejected. It has to follow specifically trance and have the commercial sound or else it is rejected. If you folks are laughing at me, that's awesome. I can easily pick out the specific parts to every trance song that don't cut it; the difference between commercial and .
Like that dude above that has all the hardware, who made the song with the female vocalist down in SoCal. The song structure is fine, her vocal is 90% their, but your melody harmonic's of the synths were horrid and destroyed the song. Infact the melody was out of tune, and generally sounded like garbage.
If you listen to modern day commercial trance, Above and Beyond, Jaytech, Aly & Fila, Eco, it doesn't sound like half the stuff that people post up here. Maybe my beats are extreme and need to be toned down, but at least they aren't cheese trance. Every sound matters, Compression, EQ'ing matters, Dynamic's, Random Changes. Half the I've heard here makes me laugh, because you might as well be writing the music I've written here, because that is how far off you are from sounding like actual commercial trance music. |
Guess what chum? There are people on these boards who make commercial trance/house etc music for a living, not everyone uses their artist name on here.
People here are laughing at your music partly because of your stupid attitude, and partly because your music is terrible. It has nothing to do with people not being able to grasp the cutting edge sound that you seem to think you have. Let me critique 'Nonsense' for you...
It's passable up to 30 seconds, then it quickly turns to rat . Your cheesy, by the numbers, saw wave ARP is COMPLETELY out of time with the beat. It's not syncopated, or quirkily timed, it is totally out of time. Your vocals are out of time and flat, they are also drowned in reverb to the extent that they don't sit in the backing track at all. The bass is barely discernible. There is some other stuff going on which sounds similar to my one year old playing on her honky tonk keyboard. There's no structure, it just goes on and on.....and on. Nothing happens at all. There's no emotion, no tension, no build, no release. I don't know what your monitoring chain is like, but this track sounds AWFUl. Simply awful. Loose, flabby, muddy, flat, out of time.
| quote: | Originally posted by closedcircle
Every sound matters, Compression, EQ'ing matters, Dynamic's, Random Changes. |
....oooof, you have a huge plank in your eye there.
I'd think you were a troll if I hadn't checked your abstract art site and other music pages.
You may be autistic, in which case I apologise; sort of. |
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| Seandroid |
| quote: | Originally posted by closedcircle
Thanks for the good laugh. I've got a pretty thick skin though =). Man I'm 28, written trance, house, techno or whatever you call it since I was 13. Need some better monitors, my current speakers ain't cutting it really. But whatever; I listened to Above and Beyond recently in detail and realized that my "trance" is opposite.
They have highly EQ'D everything so it sounds soft; including the kick drum, high hats, bass lines, pads, and vocals are very restricted to the 1-3K range at least for male vocals. Then the structure of their trance music is about playing 1 chord, with very simple inversions (changing 1 note).
It's strange because in the States here, people are so damn mean about Trance Music. I've had so many people tell me negative things about my music. What I realized is that trance music is psychological. With a fast kick and hh line, then a slower melody, what happens is you focus on the melody and the beat is going so much faster, it feels like you aren't really their (in this world).
So while the music is simple, I guess accepting your demons of the past, all the little people who just hate anything that doesn't fall into there little protected world. Funny now a days I'm a whole lot different, but I've always felt rather isolated to the world you know. Funny when you play your music and like 20% of the people like it and the other 80% just hate your guts with a passion. Not like you peeps too, where you are playing around or even if you are serious it's not with the same mean spirited hatred.
Regardless I listened to a bunch of your folks music and it isn't any better. A wise quote says to be considered a fool, is only to embrace previous fear. I mean if you take a trance song, write it with the same sounds, same structure, then you write a good song. It's really easy for me to hear anything, including my own music and know if it is good (that is one thing), then second is it commercial.
Ironically since everyone is programmed that trance sounds like X. Even if you produce something that sounds somewhat like trance, that is good, it will be rejected. It has to follow specifically trance and have the commercial sound or else it is rejected. If you folks are laughing at me, that's awesome. I can easily pick out the specific parts to every trance song that don't cut it; the difference between commercial and .
Like that dude above that has all the hardware, who made the song with the female vocalist down in SoCal. The song structure is fine, her vocal is 90% their, but your melody harmonic's of the synths were horrid and destroyed the song. Infact the melody was out of tune, and generally sounded like garbage.
If you listen to modern day commercial trance, Above and Beyond, Jaytech, Aly & Fila, Eco, it doesn't sound like half the stuff that people post up here. Maybe my beats are extreme and need to be toned down, but at least they aren't cheese trance. Every sound matters, Compression, EQ'ing matters, Dynamic's, Random Changes. Half the I've heard here makes me laugh, because you might as well be writing the music I've written here, because that is how far off you are from sounding like actual commercial trance music. |
If you paid attention you'd realize most of the people on this site are completely against beepy, cheesy, commercial trance, the problem is you're a terrible producer.
If you've written music since you were 13 you need to find a new hobby. Your concept of trance is so hilariously flawed it's ridiculous. TRANCE IS TRANCE BECAUSE I MADE THE MELODY OUT OF TIME WITH THE KICK. Are you nuts? That has nothing to do with anything, nor does it have anything to do with the hypnotic qualities of trance, which really comes from repetition.
And almost nobody on this forum produces trance so I don't know where you get off saying everyone's trying to produce cheesy melodic trance. The only cheese on this website is the cheese you brought with your sorry ass.
"Every sound matters, Compression, EQ'ing matters, Dynamic's, Random Changes"
This is the funniest thing I have ever read. You have no idea what you're doing when it comes to any of those things and you're professing how people on this forum don't understand it. I'd say Tranceaddict has an unusually large amount of fantastic and talented producers because nobody here is delusional and everyone's honest with each other so people get better.
I know what you are. You are the delusional American Idol singer that makes a fool out of themselves when they sing, and then when they get laughed at they stamp their feet and scream about how they're going to be "SO MUCH BIGGER THAN ALL Y'ALLS" into the camera, and we're all Simon Cowell. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Seandroid
...and we're all Simon Cowell. |
:stongue: :stongue: :stongue:
Ain't that the truth?
Well put, AvatarOne and Seandroid. |
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| Mad for Brad |
| this isn't electro house. |
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| closedcircle |
Whatever dog. To the person that says the first track is boring? You must have ADD. I wrote the damn song on crystal meth, rofl. Honestly I don't give a rats ass if you don't like my style of trance. Ironically I can write techno music without trying at all and people like it more so the the weird ass trance music you folks right.
Lol crappy producer hahah I can mix a track, make better sounds, samples, etc. etc. then you ever could man. Fact is most of you posers right the same kind of music that even if it is commercial ain't cutting edge and pushing the envelope of the genre. Which in my opinion creates stale and boring music. I have a listen on di.fm and every year the sound of trance changes dramatically. Even with techno it changes.
And if you folks are writing commercial trance on this forum, that ain't the I'm seeing and hearing now. The you write or produce is ancient trance; that if any DJ plays it at all, is basically playing decade old trance. Kinda like the DJ that plays old school breaks or whatever.
I don't know man, the music I write comes naturally. I don't fight who I am. Predominately I think most people are retards. Because the music you like is pretty retarded on a technical, even harmonic level. Fact is most trance is composed of some retarded chord, not even a chord structure. I bet a monkey with a computer could come up with more complex chord structures then trance music, hahah. Which is ironic because techno is all about rhythm, which really is about the harmonic principles of sound. Sorry my IQ is 165+, hard to relate to non geniuses. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by closedcircle
Whatever dog. To the person that says the first track is boring? You must have ADD. I wrote the damn song on crystal meth, rofl. |
I might have to take that up! That song is incredible! |
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| closedcircle |
| Meth is alright. I did it for an entire month then stopped. The withdrawal is for the next couple days after you quit. But they prescribe that to kids. I'd just try to keep the dose low and I would just sleep when I needed. It takes a good 3-5 days to exit your system, with a good entire day to basically not be "high" anymore. |
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| floyd741 |
| quote: | Originally posted by ken_lee
dont curse! |
what, it's not like I said ********
OH GOD I SAID IT |
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| EddieZilker |
I know. We know a cook in the trailer park. I keep warning him to switch over to the single pot method but then he goes off on this diatribe about inferior yields, which is kind of frustrating because his speech is slurred from sleep deprivation.
With meth, less really appears to be more. |
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| theterran |
| hey guise, what's going on in here? |
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