if you like Blueman, you should check out dj passion. He pretty much was the first guy to do the super gay classical music mixed with driving trance. I mean the first link has like birds and . This was circa 1999 - 2000. If Blueman is East of france, this guy, among others like alphazone, SHOKK flutlicht and scot project were probably his main influences. And gay culture.
tehlord
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Originally posted by Eric J
Yeah, agreed. I didn't buy that one, but he has more good tracks than bad ones, so thats OK. We all have those, and I fully understand being swamped with remix requests and having to half-ass a track here and there. You may not mean to do it, but sometimes it just happens.
this is true
but when a man desecrates another mans teenage fanboyism he opens the hellmouth
Mad for Brad
i promise to never make fun of 60s rock.
tehlord
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Originally posted by Eric J
I guarantee you that was some label marketing director's brilliant idea.
"Hey, you're known for making 80's stuff, lets have you remix an 80's theme song that everybody knows! They'll love it!"
Yeah, not so much. :)
your point is fairly relevant to the OP though.
a decent producer pressured to peddle out e fast
Mind you, watch the drones lap it up on soundcloud. Depressing.
Beatflux
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Originally posted by Kysora
I've covered this before, I don't listen to a lot of EDM any more. I used to, quite a bit. Tiesto and Chicane were both artists I liked, actually if I remember correctly Parade of the Athletes was what really got me into EDM. Worked my way through Armin, Corsten, BT, Deadmau5, FSOL.. I wasn't very impressed by a lot of it though and preferred a lot of the other electronica I found through playing a lot of rhythm games. Vospi, Benn Jordan, Brisk & Trixxy, SGX, even DJ Sharpnel was my favorite artist for some months. Weird japanese speedcore and breaks and whatnot. That or the other end of the spectrum, I really liked Global Communications and Boards of Canada. It was a nice break between 200 BPM speedcore anthems, haha
Point is I listened to a very wide variety of electronic music before finding uplifting trance, and something just clicked. I liked how overly "epic" the music attempted to be, though I agree with you, 99% of it is instantly forgettable drivel. Which is why I like Andy Blueman. Like the guy or not, he's one of the only people in uplifting trance who's instantly recognizable when you listen to his music. And I think he has a better ear for melodic songwriting than most, which is what I try to focus on in anything I write. So I admire that.
I wouldn't call myself an Anjuna fanboy because I really don't keep up with uplifting trance anymore, at all. I've become bored of it like everyone else, except I still think as a genre it has plenty of potential. Maybe I'm deluded but I don't really care, I like what I like and it's what I'm good at producing so I'm stuck either way.
Nowadays I more or less listen to space rock and folk music. Or just downright weird like Primus or Deerhoof. Either way I'm certainly not a stereotypical Anjuna fanboy who wets himself every time they release a track with a 3 minute breakdown. I just like Andy Blueman, I don't know why that has to have so many other negatives attached to it.
anyway, what were we talking about again?
Not parade of atheletes....
Mad for Brad
get a room gaylords
arskinetica
There is a great deal of uncertainty in my life right now. Music is the only thing that keeps me half sane.
Noticed a lot of people are copying Deadmau5'style now. Deadmau5 is similar enough to other artists, but yet is still unique. Just as Tiesto is a lot different from Armin Van Buuren.
What makes something a convention in a genre? All I have to go by is what I've learned in the Dance Music Manual and Ishkur's Guide to Electronic music.
I've been tinkering and learning for awhile, but I want to take it further.
DJ RANN
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Originally posted by Beatflux
Good lord, that picture of tiesto is quite possibly gayer than an Elton John concert in West Hollywood (being supported by erasure and right said fred).
Not to jump on the andy blueman bash-wagon, and I get that he made some popular tracks but I don't see anything in his music that hasn't been done a thousand times before - it's weird, it's like the people that love his stuff have never, ever, heard that type of over-classical and mostly cheesey trance before so they they hear it and immediately dissolve in their own e-puddle.
It just reminds me of those terrible Braveheart remixes or the countless tripe film score EDM remixes that predate his style by at least a decade. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the production and what he's putting in to it, but I just dont' understand when people say he sounds so unique.
If anything he sounds so damn generic because it sounds like all the other uber fluffy pseudo-classical trance that came before. There's nothing wrong with it if you like that sort of thing but it's not what I'd call groundbreaking.
Kysora
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Originally posted by Beatflux
Not parade of atheletes....
god I ing hate it when the one thing someone addresses in my walls of text are misunderstandings
I meant parade of athletes was my accessible, generic introduction into EDM, not that it's all I focused on by Tiesto and it's the only kind of trance I ever listened to. I listened to Just Be and In My Memory as well
Do I really give off the kind of vibe where I'd actually need to have Flight 643 linked for me? I'm not that ignorant to EDM :\
and I'll check out your links later Richie, thanks
arskinetica
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Originally posted by DJ RANN
Good lord, that picture of tiesto is quite possibly gayer than an Elton John concert in West Hollywood (being supported by erasure and right said fred).
Not to jump on the andy blueman bash-wagon, and I get that he made some popular tracks but I don't see anything in his music that hasn't been done a thousand times before - it's weird, it's like the people that love his stuff have never, ever, heard that type of over-classical and mostly cheesey trance before so they they hear it and immediately dissolve in their own e-puddle.
It just reminds me of those terrible Braveheart remixes or the countless tripe film score EDM remixes that predate his style by at least a decade. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the production and what he's putting in to it, but I just dont' understand when people say he sounds so unique.
If anything he sounds so damn generic because it sounds like all the other uber fluffy pseudo-classical trance that came before. There's nothing wrong with it if you like that sort of thing but it's not what I'd call groundbreaking.
Trying to break out of that mold, but still be accessible. I know i need work, but I won't learn anything unless I run things by people.
Well, here are a couple samples of older tracks. Learned a lot more since then.
Originally posted by Eric J
, once I heard Hybrid - Unfinished Symphony that was it for me with the classical influenced EDM. For me, that was the pinnacle for that type of track. Its a breaks track and it's older than dirt, but its remains in my all time top ten. For me, nothing I have heard since tops that track in terms of what you may call a "classically influenced" track.
That track is pure genius. That's exactly how to do it.
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Originally posted by Eric J
I loved Dinka's Celtic of Scotland, which samples Braveheart. I thought he did a really good job with it (though he seems to do a good job with just about everything).
But I get what you mean.
That bit, I don't get - for me it's his worst track (and you know I love Dinka/chris recce's stuff). I find that melody just so damn cheesey, and that's even without the imagery of a blue painted Mel Gibson shouting in a bad scottish accent "for Freedom ". I actually don't know why Dinka did it.
My hatred for it might come out of the fact that was one of the defining nails in the coffin for what I knew was trance at a particular period (along with out of the blue and carte blanch even though I have to give it to ferry they were damn well made).
