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Canadian Federal Elections 2011 - Official Thread (pg. 13)
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| infinity HiGH |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| So far Layton seems to be doing the best in the French debate. I'm surprised that Duceppe seems to be stumbling a little but he is still getting his message of Quebec first and get harper out of office second. At least Duceppe acknowledges he has no chance of being prime minister. I also like how he threw Layton under the bus by saying he has no chance either. I'm actually surprised how well Iggy is doing in the french debate. I thought he would have the hardest time out of the 4 of them. |
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| patpicos |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
So far Layton seems to be doing the best in the French debate. I'm surprised that Duceppe seems to be stumbling a little but he is still getting his message of Quebec first and get harper out of office second. At least Duceppe acknowledges he has no chance of being prime minister. I also like how he threw Layton under the bus by saying he has no chance either. I'm actually surprised how well Iggy is doing in the french debate. I thought he would have the hardest time out of the 4 of them. |
i was going to watch the french one...but computer issues kept me away from it....from what i hear from my room...duceppe still annoys me :) |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by devnull
i was going to watch the french one...but computer issues kept me away from it....from what i hear from my room...duceppe still annoys me :) |
none of the leaders really said anything different in this debate other then Layton focusing more on Quebec more. |
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| daves |
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Vaughan Conservatives quit over $10 million grant
Published On Wed Apr 13 2011
Allison Cross
Staff Reporter
Two Vaughan Conservatives have quit their riding association over a $10 million federal grant given to a health care project spearheaded by MP Julian Fantino’s former fundraisers.
“I’m a Canadian and a taxpayer first,” said Richard Lorello, who ran as a Conservative candidate in the riding in 2008. “It didn’t look right to me. If it was the Liberal party doing this, (the) Conservatives would be jumping up and down.”
Tracey Kent, a five-year member of the association, also resigned.
The federal government announced in March it would give $10 million to the Vaughan Health Campus of Care, a private non-profit group founded in 2007 with the intention of bringing a hospital to the city. Despite its population of 300,000, Vaughan doesn’t have a hospital.
Michael DeGasperis, the hospital group’s chair, and Sam Ciccolini, the director, ran Fantino’s successful byelection fundraising campaign in November 2010.
“It seems to me like we’re rewarding people for helping Mr. Fantino on his campaign,” Lorello said. “It doesn’t look right. It’s inappropriate.”
The grant money itself won’t go toward constructing a hospital, which is a provincial task. Instead, it’s earmarked to help develop a site for health-related facilities to complement a hospital planned for a 35-hectare lot.
Lorello is uncomfortable with $10 million in public funds going to a private company he claims has yet to publicly release a business plan.
He believes Ottawa would have been better off giving the money directly to York Central Hospital, which is in charge of bringing the hospital to Vaughan.
“I had actually requested to meet with Mr. Fantino and I was told to put my concerns in writing,” Lorello said. “I kind of took exception to that because all I was going to do was provide some advice.”
Fantino’s campaign manager said the Vaughan Health Campus has been well-received by the community and will benefit “families, seniors and the region’s economy.”
“The (investment) made to (the Vaughan Health Campus) is to create a life science industry at the campus and for infrastructure,” said Stephen Lecce. “Mr. Fantino is proud the federal government delivered for this critical community-based project for families in Vaughan that is being widely supported by volunteers and donors.”
York Central Hospital welcomed the new funding, saying the complementary health care services would benefit the people of Vaughan.
Tony Genco, then a Liberal candidate who’d just lost to Fantino in the byelection, also praised the initiative. Two weeks later, Genco defected and threw his weight behind his former rival.
When asked about Lorello’s concerns, Mario Ferri, Liberal candidate for Vaughan, said he supports “additional funding for health care in Vaughan.
“I also expect, as do my fellow residents of Vaughan, that funding is provided based on the merits of a project and the results it will bring in health care, not on who is involved,” Ferri said.
Tracey Kent said she quit the riding association because she lost faith in Fantino, who once headed the Toronto police and the OPP, and could no longer support the direction of the party. Her existing concerns were magnified when the federal grant money went to the Vaughan Health Campus, she said.
“We have a bad reputation in Vaughan,” Kent said. “I was hoping (Fantino) was going to be that white knight to fix it. But when I saw some of the activity going on, I knew it was the same old politics again.”
The citizens of Vaughan deserve “absolute transparency” from the Vaughan Health Campus, she said.
Vaughan Health Campus officials did not respond to requests for interviews Wednesday evening.
Lorello formally resigned from the riding association on April 4 but said he still considers himself a Conservative.
“It’s disappointing,” he said. “But I have to be truthful with myself.”
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Harper Did
crappy site. :) |
Fixed.
Seriously... the first "look how evil Harper is" I got was a blerb about how crazy his particular brand of Christianity is... the implication being that if he believes these things then he should be feared. The second "look how evil Harper is" I got was a blerb about cutting aid to impoverished nations giving particular note to how this is inconsistant with him being a Christian. Ultimately, the two combined told me that although Harper's church may believe certain things to be true he does not govern by his church's teachings; subsequently, I have now been led to believe that Harper puts what he believes to be in the best interest of the country ahead of his personal beliefs... this seems to be a desirable attribute for a potential leader to have, no?
Don't get me wrong; I'm not a conservative partisan, just pointing out that the site is flawed by inconsistancy. If one has even the slightest ability to think critically then they should disregard this type of negative advertising based on partial information crafted to ellicit a knee jerk reaction using only rhetoric and lacking substance. |
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| infinity HiGH |
| I honestly wish there was an option on the ballot to vote for a monkey. |
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| Jer |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Fixed.
Seriously... the first "look how evil Harper is" I got was a blerb about how crazy his particular brand of Christianity is... the implication being that if he believes these things then he should be feared. The second "look how evil Harper is" I got was a blerb about cutting aid to impoverished nations giving particular note to how this is inconsistant with him being a Christian. Ultimately, the two combined told me that although Harper's church may believe certain things to be true he does not govern by his church's teachings; subsequently, I have now been led to believe that Harper puts what he believes to be in the best interest of the country ahead of his personal beliefs... this seems to be a desirable attribute for a potential leader to have, no?
Don't get me wrong; I'm not a conservative partisan, just pointing out that the site is flawed by inconsistancy. If one has even the slightest ability to think critically then they should disregard this type of negative advertising based on partial information crafted to ellicit a knee jerk reaction using only rhetoric and lacking substance. |
Amen. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by infinity HiGH
I honestly wish there was an option on the ballot to vote for a monkey. |
THAT'S RACIST! |
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| infinity HiGH |
| I meant literally a monkey, not figuratively :p |
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| PivotTechno |
Following my friend's plan - if it's close in my riding (which is won't be - Mario Silva seems to be a perpetual lock in this largely Portuguese 'hood), vote Liberal. If not, vote Green.
Reform Party (which is all today's Conservative Party is) politics have got to go. By and large, I don't like American policy (mass deregulation, corporate lobbying, etc.) and I don't want it in this country. |
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