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Canadian Federal Elections 2011 - Official Thread (pg. 5)
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| StereoPrincess |
i really do wish that we could vote for the prime minister.
cuz as it stands your votes don't count for . all of toronto will be liberal. all the west provinces will be conservative. all of quebec will be bloc. all small working towns will be NDP. and the country will be divided so it makes no difference. the only way to change the votes is to change the geographical make up of canada. |
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| daves |
So we have Harper arrogantly telling canadians that their only options are to vote him for a majority or else they will end up with "the evil coalition". The same "evil coalition" idea which he seemed to not have a problem with in 2004 and 1997.
Harper lies about the amount of money which his agenda plans will cost, when he even feels like revealing that data to parliament (okay, well maybe the fighter jet estimates are not a lie... IF you want to believe that GAO estimates mean nothing and Lockheed-Martin is going to sell military equipment and servicing support to Canada for about half the USA itself pays!).
Harper wants canadians to believe he is there for the average family... but he is more interested in lowering business taxes (how do you make up for lost government revenue from business taxes?)
Harper wants canadians to believe we need him to install more prisons in order to feel safe and secure (what is the trending on crime rates currently?)
Harper screens anybody who is going to be allowed to ask him questions. What is he afraid of?
Harper lets the media ask a total of 5 questions per day. What is he afraid of? |
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| rabbitjoker |
| SOCIALISTS!!! |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by rabbitjoker
SOCIALISTS!!! |
IDIOT!!! |
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| jester |
| quote: | Originally posted by cyclegoat
Conservatives are leading in the polls. What does that mean? Either there is allot of rich people here in Canada (I doubt it) or people don't really see the bigger picture on where this is going and vote with their ideology (more likely). |
Doesn't matter who you vote for, you still get screwed.
The Conservatives are helping the economy but destroying the environment. The Liberals will destroy the economy but help the environment. The NDP will just grow the government. As for the Green Party they will probably shrink the government and help out the environment. Bloc only cares about French speaking people that live in Quebec and doesn't care about anyone else in the province of Quebec or the country, plus if Quebec did separate it would be like Denmark, even higher taxes for Quebec.
What is your definition of rich? Someone making over $250,000 per year (165,910 (0.670845688%) people as of 2008) or worth over $1 million (1,098,000 families (8.2%) as of 2005). Plus the families worth over $ 1 million as of 2005 hold 46.5% of the wealth.
At least Canada is not in the same boat as the US, Spain, Portugal, Ireland and Greece.
The last decent leader the Liberals had was Paul Martin, which is scary. Having a business titan running the Liberal party. |
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| daves |
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Layton slams Harper for talking gun control instead of job losses
2011/04/04 12:50:00
Richard J. Brennan
National Affairs Writer
NDP Leader Jack Layton slammed Conservative Leader Stephen Harper for talking about gun control in Niagara Region Monday while ignoring the massive job losses there.
For the second time in as many elections, Harper went to the Welland area and paid no attention to the latest plant closure, instead concentrating on the NDP’s flip-flop on registering long guns.
“Mr. Harper’s priorities are to (drive) wedges between people and he simply ignores the realities most working families are facing, which is they are worried about their job security,” Layton said during a stop in Toronto where he announced pension reform.
In 2008 election, Harper arrived in Welland when it was just announced that the John Deere plant was moving to the U.S., throwing some 800 employees out of work. Harper announced a crackdown on flavoured cigarettes.
On Monday during a stopover in nearby Wainfleet, Harper hammered away at gun control, knowing the NDP’s decision to reverse itself on registering long guns makes the party vulnerable in rural Ontario ridings. NDP MP Malcolm Allen now holds the riding of Welland.
“It just shows the disconnect that [Harper] would go and talk about something like the registry on a community that is losing its lifeblood,” Layton told reporters.
Welland’s Henniges Automotive or as it commonly referred to, General Tire, recently announced it was closing, forcing hundreds of employees to find other work, many of them after decades of service.
“The middle class is being wiped out in Welland and his government is doing absolutely nothing about it … it just show you where his mixed priorities lie,” Layton said.
The Bick’s canning plant in nearby Dunnville announced late last year that it was moving to the U.S.
“Mr. Harper doesn’t seem to understand the daily reality of the people in the Welland area or southern Ontario, which is that they are worried about their jobs. And he is going into an area that has been devastated by job losses … and he says nothing about it, and worse, he does nothing about it,” Layton said.
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http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/...d-of-job-losses |
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| rabbitjoker |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
IDIOT!!! |
Ouch!!!
Thank you for not over-using your vocabulary today. I was worried you would strain your brain cell (to make it obvious for you - note the singular). |
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| jester |
It is funny how this country still has no concrete way to run that program :haha: Plus how often do you hear about someone using a gun in this country to harm someone or to defend themselves? (Don't get me wrong I am for the gun registry, but it shouldn't take years to have it run properly.) Why not have a knife registry also, seeing some dude was nearly stabbed to death a few nights ago here in Montreal. If someone wants to get a gun they need to pass a psychological evaluation every year, to be allowed to own / operate a weapon. I read up on part of the gun law, even if you have a gun and you want to move it around. You must call law enforcement to tell them where you are bringing your weapon.
I would rather Harper talk about new self defense laws. If someone tries to harm you, you should be allowed to use deadly force to protect yourself or loved ones and not be prosecuted for a wrongful death. At least citizen arrest is sort of legal now.
Don't get me wrong that people are losing their jobs, it does suck. It would be great if 100% of the work force would be working. Is that possible, anything is. As long as Canada doesn't take the route such as the US (with some 6.67% (22 million Americans) work for the government) |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by rabbitjoker
Ouch!!!
Thank you for not over-using your vocabulary today. I was worried you would strain your brain cell (to make it obvious for you - note the singular). |
You want to talk about vocabulary? Funny coming from The guy that only posts "socialists" once in a while on threads.. I can tell that you must be frustrated though seeing how your party's corruptions and lies are being exposed to Canadians. You go ahead and call the rest of the country socialists; we are getting our country back so you might want to start packing your bags and say goodbye to Harper and his clowns for good. :) |
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| daves |
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Harper’s closed-door campaign marches woman out of rally in London
Published On Tue Apr 05 2011
Allan Woods and Bruce Campion-Smith Ottawa Bureau
VICTORIAVILLE, QUE.— Conservative Leader Stephen Harper has long been known for martial discipline, but his campaign may have crossed the line when someone frog-marched a young woman out of a rally in London, Ont., Sunday.
The first-time voter’s crime, apparently, was to have posed for a picture with Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff and posted it for all to see on her Facebook page.
About half an hour before Harper arrived at the crowded hotel rally, one organizer asked to speak with Awish Aslam and a friend outside the room. There, he ripped up their nametags and ordered them to leave.
“We know you guys have ties to the Liberal party through Facebook,” the University of Western Ontario student told the London Free Press. “You are no longer welcome here.”
The Tories say the incident was a mistake, though Harper himself offered no apology when asked about it Tuesday.
“The staff runs our campaigns and I can’t comment on individual matters like that,” Harper said.
Yet it is becoming a pattern. Last Thursday an advocate for homeless veterans was turned away when he attempted to attend a campaign event where Harper was speaking in Halifax. This, after several unsuccessful attempts by Jim Lowther to contact the Tory leader about the plight of once-proud Canadian soldiers now living on the streets.
Lowther later joined both Ignatieff and NDP Leader Jack Layton on campaign podiums as they announced their promises to provide better benefits to vets.
The incidents highlight the different campaign styles, particularly of the Tory and Grit leaders. Harper’s morning announcements are held at secure locations with adoring local partisans. To attend his evening rallies, people must pre-register with the local candidate’s campaign headquarters. As Aslam’s experience proves, those names are investigated to ensure opposition trickery does not obscure Harper’s message of stability and security for the nation.
“I just think when you get to a situation where people can’t come to a public meeting in Canada . . . because they have a Facebook friend from another party, you’re in a bad place,” Ignatieff said Tuesday. “You’re in a very bad place, you’re in a very un-Canadian place.”
In part because he needs to win over voters from other parties, the Liberal leader has made a virtue of opening his campaign events to the public. He has frequently ventured into the streets to shake hands with supporters and critics alike. So far, he does not appear to have suffered for it.
Ignatieff said that a rally Monday night in St. John’s was attended by Progressive Conservatives disillusioned with Harper and NDP voters who may vote strategically to keep the Tories out of power.
“There are a lot of people coming to look at us, check us out. That’s what a democratic debate is all about,” he said.
That clearly does not faze Harper.
“I’m meeting hundreds of people inside and outside of events. I think the campaign is going well,” he said. “I think we get more people coming to our events . . . than all the other parties combined.”
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| hardcore trancer |
| When I think of Democracy Stephen Harper is the name that comes to mind.. :o |
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| infinity HiGH |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
You want to talk about vocabulary? Funny coming from The guy that only posts "socialists" once in a while on threads.. I can tell that you must be frustrated though seeing how your party's corruptions and lies are being exposed to Canadians. You go ahead and call the rest of the country socialists; we are getting our country back so you might want to start packing your bags and say goodbye to Harper and his clowns for good. :) |
Corruption, you say?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sponsorship_scandal |
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