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Deadmau5 breaks down the take-home pay for a celebrity DJ (pg. 14)
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| rabbitjoker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zyklon_Jay
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Sorry, who are you again? |
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| Zyklon_Jay |
| jenny craig...its obvious we've never met before. |
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| d-form |
I have a hard time believing they get the same fee as coldplay. Comparing Coldplay and arcade fire is like comparing feist with celine dion.
Anyways the 360 deal alone is 1 million lbs over 5 years. so almost 2 million dollars over 5 years. He's swimming in money. And from the pics of him out at the guv he's often with a girl 10X hotter than any chick he dated before he was HUGE. Those benefits are priceless.
ps. no need to get angry and personal when people don't agree with you. |
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| *~LiSa-LoO~* |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zyklon_Jay
jenny craig...its obvious we've never met before. |
Wow, whether or not your comments are right or wrong with respect to arcade fire (who I've never heard of btw) vs. deadmau5, your maturity really shines through with your juvenile comebacks. :rolleyes: |
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| The Highroller |
| quote: | Originally posted by Bryce Santiago
For many years corporate interests have scratched their heads trying to get into the dance scene, as they are desparate to make money. They are losing money BIG TIME in the rock scene. Rock touring is almost dead. Last year the company posted a big Net Loss and had to adjust much of their operations. It will be interesting to see if they make any progress in the dance music market. |
A recent article I read in The Economist refutes this point. I would like to see your comments on it:
| quote: | Live Music: Pay the Piper
An economics lesson in the concert industry
ARE you longing to see Take That, a British boy band approaching middle age? More than 1.3m people are. So heavy is demand for the tour, which begins in Sunderland in May, that Britain’s phone network at one point creaked under three to four times the normal weight of calls. But even sold-out concerts are never really so. Plenty of Take That tickets are for sale online—at up to five times the original prices.
For the hottest acts, the concert business is good. Lady Gaga and Justin Bieber have little problem selling tickets. Yet trouble lurks below the stratosphere. Pollstar, a research firm, estimates that the 50 biggest worldwide tours grossed $2.93 billion last year—12% less than in 2009. StubHub, a large website on which tickets are traded, says the average concert-ticket price dropped by 18% between 2008 and 2010.
The long boom in live music, which saw American revenues rise from less than $1 billion in 1995 to $4.6 billion in 2009, has paused. Bands have pushed average ticket prices about as high as they can go, and tested the limits of punters’ appetites with long tours. Michael Rapino, head of Live Nation Entertainment, said last year that 40% of seats routinely went unsold. To keep growing, the business will have to stop leaving money on the table.
Live music is one of the few businesses in which second-hand goods often sell for more than new ones. “As soon as a show sells out, front-row seats appear on the web for £600,” says Rob Hallett of AEG Live. Tickets to see musicians such as Bruce Springsteen, who insists that entry to his shows be cheap enough for working stiffs to afford, are particularly susceptible to what fans call “price gouging” and an economist would call price discovery. Outfits such as Ticketmaster have tried to capture some of this huge secondary market by setting up ticket exchanges. But this leaves fans confused and suspicious. It is not easy for a firm to play both the primary and the secondary market.
Change is afoot. Front-row seats for desirable shows are increasingly marketed as “premium” or “platinum” tickets, sold at a high fixed price or even at prices that float according to demand. As The Economist went to press, for example, you could pay Ticketmaster about £200 for good seats at a Katy Perry concert in Manchester (the tickets’ face value is £22.50). Punters are keen: Mr Hallett says premium seats frequently sell out first.
Some live-music events have also introduced a crude version of airline-style pricing, in which tickets become more expensive over time. T in the Park, a large pop shindig held in Scotland, pioneered the practice of offering discounted “early bird” tickets to build buzz. Other pop festivals are following, sometimes with “super early bird” tickets at lower prices.
This could be pushed a good deal further. American sports teams such as the San Francisco Giants are moving to allow the prices of all individual tickets to float according to demand (which means that unpopular games become cheaper). Barry Kahn of Qcue, a software firm that creates the algorithms, says the potential for dynamic pricing is much greater in pop music because there are no season-ticket holders.
There is a hitch, however. At least four players are involved in putting on a live-music show: an artist, a promoter, a ticket-seller and a venue. Locked in perpetual squabbles over the spoils, they find it hard to adopt more sensible pricing techniques. Even the creation, a year ago, of Live Nation Entertainment, a vertically integrated entertainment giant, has not significantly changed pricing practices. Many artists say they want to shut out the touts—an impossible task.
The music business has a long history of failing to innovate. Its inability to cope with file-sharing led to the collapse of recorded-music sales and the growing dependence on live music. That part of the business now needs to improve. Time to wake up and smell the spilled beer. |
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| d-form |
| quote: | Originally posted by The Highroller
A recent article I read in The Economist refutes this point. I would like to see your comments on it: |
huh? it seems to back up his comments from what I can see. Concert promoters are losing money, ticket sales are down, seats are empty. Now they need to come up with other ways of making money. Pretty muc what he said. |
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| StereoPrincess |
Ahahahahahahaha. Moncton? Ahahahahahahahaha. Wow! I can open for a band in Moncton. But thanks for coming out.
The most retarded thing is that I actually like Arcade Fire. I just think they make similar money as deadmau5. they are on the same level in terms of money coming in.
they are huge in their genres, came out about the same time (have been in the business around the same time), and both have successful tours. one is opening for U2 in Moncton, the other is headlining the Rogers Centre, alone. |
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| I_Am_Vince |
| quote: | Originally posted by StereoPrincess
The most retarded thing is that I actually like Arcade Fire. I just think they make similar money as deadmau5. they are on the same level in terms of money coming in.
they are huge in their genres, came out about the same time (have been in the business around the same time), and both have successful tours. one is opening for U2 in Moncton, the other is headlining the Rogers Centre, alone. |
I actually think Arcade Fire is making more money because they're an indie band and probably make more money from sales per unit than deadmau5 who is giving up half his money to EMI on everything.
Arcade Fire won Album of the year in this year's Grammys which undoubtedly boosts album sales and world wide recognition.
Their newest album "The Suburbs" sold 156,000 units in the first week in the US alone. |
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| geroin |
Arcade Fire are huge, i do not think deadmau5 has reached a level to compete with them.
their first album is considered one of top 10 albums of 2000's.
"Arcade Fire has won numerous awards, including the 2011 Grammy for Album of the Year, the 2011 Juno Award for Album of the Year, and the 2011 Brit Award for Best International Album for their third studio album, The Suburbs, released in 2010 to critical acclaim and commercial success.[1] In earlier years they won the 2008 Meteor Music Award for Best International Album and the 2008 Juno Award for Alternative Album of the Year for their second studio album, Neon Bible. They also received nominations for the Best Alternative Music Album Grammy for all three of their studio albums."
deadmau5 is not even close to any of this. |
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| FunkyCrew |
| like Lisa, I've never heard of them - just heard of Juno award but that's about it.. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| I didn't think it was possible that people here haven't heard of every single Canadian band out there....that being said there are probably more fans of Arcade Fire that haven't heard of Deadmau5. |
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