Originally posted by VDub
You're very fickle aren't you??
lol. why?
Xavier Moriarty
lol
Zyklon_Jay
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Originally posted by d-form
Since we're discussing how much cdn bands make I've always wondered how well the guys in tragically hip have done. They've sold hundreds of thousands of albums in canada and can headline a festival that brings in big bands american bands like weezer to co-headline but don't you need an album that sells 3-5 million to get comfortably rich and they've never had that kind of international success.
They have made a good career in Canada, and they sell well even if they play a little too often. They are the antithesis of "rock stars" and are smart and have side projects producing independent Canadian youngsters.
They had a few tracks that got some play abroad, but the brunt of their work is appreciated here the most.
It is probably the band i've seen most, not because i love them...but because they play really often. You don't need to be a mega star to make a more than adequate living.
I can remember going to visit my sister in Kingston, and just chilling in a little bar having a few drinks...guess who shows up? yup...they played all night for free unannounced. It was epic.
Not everyone is about the money, but in certain cities the trag clean up because they sell well in Canada among a demographic that has disposable income. I can't ing stand Blue Rodeo...but the situation is somewhat the same for them. Big fish in a small pond...but people go.
MSZ
Bryce Santiago
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Originally posted by darouge11
this I agree, perhaps maybe 20,000 is even pushing it?
The capacity for this event is far less than that.
It makes me proud though that a Canadian is touring different countries playing House music. This in of itself is a great thing for the genre.
thesauce23
so wait hold up. why does everyone hate this dude? i only talked to him once at This is London in 2007 and he seemed modest. it seems everyone hates him now? why?
p.s. no i have not been living under a rock
Bryce Santiago
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Originally posted by thesauce23
so wait hold up. why does everyone hate this dude? i only talked to him once at This is London in 2007 and he seemed modest. it seems everyone hates him now? why?
p.s. no i have not been living under a rock
I don't think people hate him. They just find his comments snotty and immature...the comments about DJs. You have to understand that much of the dance music crowd comes from an older generation...and they probably see the inflow of new laptop DJs as an encroachment on the art of DJing. Supposedly I read somewhere that someone recently punched him in the head at one of his gigs. These types of activities add to the hype factor. In reality they may not even be true, which makes it even more hilarious.
I generally think he's a good thing for House because he exposes the younger generations to the genre.
There could be also some jealousy factor...what others display. A lot of hype is manufactured around commercial acts. The booking of the dome is one perfect example. You get kids and the wow factor already saying that "HOLY - HE SOLD OUT THE DOME" even before the event has occurred, even ignoring that the seats are even closed. There could also be a large population of DJs in the scene who work very hard but do not have the hype behind them (marketing power) that he has, so they become frustrated due to the lack of gigs and growth. I hope that these underground DJs do not get deterred by these activities. Ignore it.
Much of the commercial scene revolves around hype. This is a normal part of the business.
Zyklon_Jay
polish cocks.
Zyklon_Jay
why do people hate him?
i'll give you the real answer. for people that have been listening to electronic music for a long time his stuff is a little ummmmm obnoxious, loud, and in your face without anything deep or more complex than a royale with cheese.
this does not make it a bad thing, think of deadmau5 like weed. he is a gateway drug (in the same sense as tiesto was for many of you.). he gets you hooked young without knowing what you were doing or about anything else out there. eventually you dig deeper and move on. those of us past that point don't get it anymore because, we are well...older...and don't do drugs like in the past.
i give the guy full credit for making something of himself. it is no small task. at the same time though for the seasoned vets who have been there before he came around, his music might not hit its mark.
we've all listened to cheesy at one time or another...most likely when young. even if i can't get into his tracks, he is an essential part of the business because the people he brings out will eventually support the more underground acts that you all love.
this is the nicest thing i will ever say about joel:p i don't know how to love. i'm italian and if i can't compare something to rocky 3 it sucks.
i'm also quite drunk;p
thesauce23
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Originally posted by Bryce Santiago
There could also be a large population of DJs in the scene who work very hard but do not have the hype behind them (marketing power) that he has, so they become frustrated due to the lack of gigs and growth.
but is that his fault? did he not earn the spot where he is now? or did he get his position/success spoon-fed to him as others are seemingly implying.. this might be my interpretation of this whole fiasco regarding him so just wondering what the real deal is.
deadmau5
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Originally posted by thesauce23
...just wondering what the real deal is.
pretty certain nobody on here would know. but reading all the speculation is amusing at least.
but man, if i ever need new management, business advisors, production managers, all this kiddy "major label" amateur . Just by reading some of this , you'd figure all the worlds most knowledgeable and experienced people i need are obviously just a handful of TA members... who knew!
deadmau5
OR!!! i could just do what Jay is implying... "go underground and be cool" coz i guess thats the correct way to do something, i mean, ONLY if you want to be taken SERIOUSLY by SERIOUS forum posters... which is important btw.
I 100% agree with him too... your music career shouldnt be about doing what YOU want. thats rediculess. your music career and the choices you make therein should ONLY be about impressing a handful of VERY important critics with high post counts on a forum, not the world... because then you'd just be a sellout.
