Originally posted by Sykonee
The is this bint ranting on about now? As far as I can gather, her argument goes something like this:
"For the true underground scene to survive, it must sell out to the mainstream. Then, and only then, will people truly appreciate the true underground scene."
:conf:
Are you confused?
the1IRun2
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
You even believe Oakenfold did everything for the love of music and just happened to get rich, even though there are interviews where he lays out his carefully planned marketing strategies in detail.
I don't give a ! More power to him! More power to him! The very idea that motivation should always be intrinsic and that there should never be any talk about money is the VERY ing propaganda put out by people looking to manipulate and confuse others! I don't drink the purple juice! I don't believe the wolfcry! I don't believe the condemnation put forward by the Steve Dahls of this world! I don't believe in disco sucks! The fact is Paul Oakenfold was able to use his business sense (something you lack) and build this scene and and offer people a viable alternative to what the american music industry was promoting here. And for that he has my respect for life!
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
They're marketed through the ing Internet. And trust me, there is still a hell of a lot of money to be made in scoring DJ gigs.
Who are these new djs making hits and making money in this environment? Who? Tell me some new names out there doing it and getting ahead in this environment using the internet as their sole promo and getting lucrative gigs who weren't popular to begin with? I'll start with deadmau5 and his million dollar 360 deal... Not sure if we can attribute his success to his grassroots internet promotion efforts but hey he is out there! Anybody else guys??? Because all I am hearing is the opposite... All I am hearing is labels calling it quits, clubs getting shut down and people from the industry now having a job that doesn't have anything to do with dance music! Let me remind you by the way...
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Originally posted by John 00 Fleming
Being in this game for a long time, I've seen huge changes in the music industry. In fact the world seems to be run by big corporation companies these days. Most shopping malls look the same, having the usual big chain stores inside. Most towns and cities have a McDonalds, Starbucks and usual supermarket chains. Slowly the independents are getting pushed out the picture. It's no different in the music industry. We're being run by a handful of major labels (that use sub labels to hide their dominance). The independent labels don't really stand a chance in the new corporate world. There once was a day when independent labels would sign a band, tour them around the country in dirty bars, pubs and clubs and build them into something special and turning them into a chart success. The key to this was an outlet of independent record shops where specialist fans would discover new music and bands and support them. Unfortunately this community network no longer exists. The people who worked in these stores .... Where true music lovers. Geeks passionate about music. I miss these days of turning to these people for advice when finding music..... We now live in a World where people want instant gratification, so download stores saw an end to physical shops. The same instant gratification saw the rise to the X-Factor/pop idol culture. We see 'normal' people from the street in a TV competition and instantly want to see them turned into pop stars. The same applies in our specialist dance music World, people are making tracks to become instantly famous so they can tour the World as a DJ. The music cluttered in download shops is testament to this. It's impossible for a band on an independent label to make it into the top 40 charts these days. That chart is run by the handful of major labels and the infrastructure they control. The same can be .... said about the handful of labels that dominate dance music scene. .... It's easy to say that digital downloading killed our specialist records shops. But we lost a lot more than that. We lost our local communities, our outlet of information about up and coming artists, bands or DJ's. Importantly we lost those passionate kids that worked in those stores. Instead we get force fed information from corporate companies telling us what we should be listening too and the inflated electronic hype that comes with it. .... .. .. Let's hope the same technology that took away our specialist communities can help us survive. It's never been about competing with the corporate companies, it's about having a support network. .... That's the difference with passionate music lovers, they are always there to help, and it’s never about being competitive. The trophy holders can keep their awards. To us this means nothing. I want that family community back with likewise people to share my passion with. ....
Remember this one? Remember this?
I bookmarked it!
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
And it goes further. If you want to book someone like Armin, you'll have to sign an agreement where you also book other DJs on his roster, even if you have no interest in putting them on. Funnily enough, these DJs are the same guys who are having their tracks whored out by Armin in his sets and on his radio shows. Which go out to millions of worldwide listeners, every week, on the Internet. Starting to make sense now?
Oh... I see.... The internet...
:haha:
Armin is on satellite radio you moron! :whip: :whip: :whip: 24 hour sundays on satellite Radio! You know... at the music channels on everybody's television... you know... just a few channels up from the Howard-ing-Stern show! Sure beats forum spamming doesn't it? Now how do you even put him in the same box as your average dance producer/label owner/dj and say there is the internet and you can spam it and see... see... tons of record sales! Bull! :whip: You lie and lie over and over!
Ted Promo
I had no idea Ann Coulter was into Armin.
Halcyon+On+On
Italics and exclamation marks!
Needlessly exaggerated questions with too many question marks???
I respond to arguments with all the embellishment of hyperbole, as though I am a foreigner!!!
the1IRun2
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Originally posted by Ted Promo
I had no idea Ann Coulter was into Armin.
Me neither! :wtf:
Halcyon+On+On
! :wtf:
the1IRun2
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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
I respond to arguments with all the embellishment of hyperbole, as though I am a foreigner!!!
Where are you from?
Halcyon+On+On
Canthwess.
the1IRun2
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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Canthwess.
Any foreigners there?
Halcyon+On+On
No, actually, everyone's related. And loves Ferry Corsten.
the1IRun2
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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
No, actually, everyone's related.
One big family huh?
That is true love right there...
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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
And loves Ferry Corsten.
Say... did you get a chance to show Ferry that love?
