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One Night in Hackney (pg. 9)
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| Zyklon_Jay |
oh man that, sounds like disguised crimethink.:p
I can't imagine living that way, but then again I haven't been desensitized in regards to it. |
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| Jackson |
Can't wait to see some chavs getting hit with plastic bullets.
Sadly one of the top officers said they won't be using them even though they are now authorized to :( |
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| dj_alfi |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
I'm not sure I agree with you, Lira. Certainly, there are historical examples where violence has destroyed something allowing something else to be established in it's place; however, that's not changing an institution but replacing it. Of course, there are also plenty of historical examples where violence preceeded changes but the change itself was initiated internally with violence usually being a result of the resistance to change and then exacerbating the change that was already taking hold. Violence itself doesn't cause change... someone with influence and power must usher in the reform. |
What you are describing is a (violent) political/socio-economic revolution.
I don't think a bunch of criminals running around looting falls in under that category. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zyklon_Jay
oh man that, sounds like disguised crimethink.:p
I can't imagine living that way, but then again I haven't been desensitized in regards to it. |
What the are you talking about? Please tell me how it would affect your life, Jay, because I can't figure it out. I do not think about the cameras, ever. The thing about public places is, they're public. You're always being watched, and so you don't do private things there. And if you do, you have absolutely no right to complain if you get caught. Trust me, your life of cat fondling, mid-market eateries and slightly kinky anal sex would be no different if your country had as much CCTV as mine.
The profusion of CCTV is massively exaggerated anyway. That stat that you get caught on camera 500 times a day is only true if you work in London city centre. So yeah, if you commute through one of the largest cities in the world, you'll get caught on camera a lot. OPPRESSIVE. In most suburbs or villages there are no cameras at all. And the idea that it's centralised, that the government has control of all these cameras and that all their footage is recorded and saved is nonsense. Read Michel Foucault's essay on the Panopticon system of social control. CCTV is an urban myth, a 21st Century God that can hear our sinful thoughts and stops us ever acting out of line in the first place. Do you think most of these rioters will actually be caught and convicted? |
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| dj_alfi |
I'd rather have a couple of thousand stationary CCTV cameras to worry about than 308 million of these running around.
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| Zyklon_Jay |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
What the are you talking about? Please tell me how it would affect your life, Jay, because I can't figure it out. I do not think about the cameras, ever. The thing about public places is, they're public. You're always being watched, and so you don't do private things there. And if you do, you have absolutely no right to complain if you get caught. Trust me, your life of cat fondling, mid-market eateries and slightly kinky anal sex would be no different if your country had as much CCTV as mine.
The profusion of CCTV is massively exaggerated anyway. That stat that you get caught on camera 500 times a day is only true if you work in London city centre. So yeah, if you commute through one of the largest cities in the world, you'll get caught on camera a lot. OPPRESSIVE. In most suburbs or villages there are no cameras at all. And the idea that it's centralised, that the government has control of all these cameras and that all their footage is recorded and saved is nonsense. Read Michel Foucault's essay on the Panopticon system of social control. CCTV is an urban myth, a 21st Century God that can hear our sinful thoughts and stops us ever acting out of line in the first place. Do you think most of these rioters will actually be caught and convicted? |
doubleplusgood.
jon the dentist hit a nerve. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj_alfi
What you are describing is a (violent) political/socio-economic revolution.
I don't think a bunch of criminals running around looting falls in under that category. |
That was percicely my point. |
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| dj_alfi |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
That was percicely my point. |
I don't know what percicely means, so I'm just gonna assume you meant precisely.
It wasn't meant as a rebuttal, as much as it was an emergency brake for a train that was about to derail :P |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zyklon_Jay
doubleplusgood.
jon the dentist hit a nerve. |
Stop wasting my time with your crayon drawings of intelligent thought. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj_alfi
I don't know what percicely means, so I'm just gonna assume you meant precisely. |
:p |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Stop wasting my time with your crayon drawings of intelligent thought. |
Yeah, this is more a magic marker crowd! |
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| Zyklon_Jay |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Stop wasting my time with your crayon drawings of intelligent thought. |
You waste your own time, by replying to everything in paragraphs like you ed frenchie or something.
I read that in a psychology book. |
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