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Occupy Movement (support or against?) (pg. 2)
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| feelgood |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vivid Boy
please we got it good here. When our poor can afford telephones and plasma tv's, I don't think we have any reason to complain. Occupy Wallstreet I do support, they're in a heap of trouble so is Italy Spain and Greece. People in Toronto are just being copy cats |
This.
Occupy X is a collection of first world problems. Its the self entitlement movement. |
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| Mach X |
For the ideal and basis behind the "movement" i'm all for it...
Against how they are going about it... it won't do .
If half of those hippies occupied those same streets a few weeks before well groomed, suited up, resume in hand and remove the stick from their ass... that would be better. Occupy a in job, any job, occupy some education and occupy some in ambition, motivation and hard work to actually put yourself in a position where you can be heard or make changes.
Everyone blames something, and it always be that way, but instead of bitching about it, realize it, suck it up and do your in best each and every day to make yourself better.
People putting up tents and holding signs and making a park smell like Patchouli is not going to do a god damned thing. |
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| GGM |
I think most people against them do so because they don't think it has much of a chance of changing anything. Well, for the most part in the immediate future you're probably right. But let me ask how it has hurt you? Less than $0.25 in tax payer money? Or were you a regular at St James park and are royally pissed you can't go there anymore to sit and read your paper? IMO a lot of people need to stop buying into the media's trashing of these people and weigh pros/cons for themselves. Sure that pro list is short, but imo that con list is even shorter.
I'm personally in favour of them but not by any strong amount. Main reason is awareness. There's tons more people walking around these days discussing actual issues that need to be addressed instead of how much blow Charlie Sheen has done or whatever other mainstream BS is being spewed that week. The awareness alone is worth the minimal cost to society of these protests for me. Sure it doesn't change anything but every effective movement started with something, you need that foundation of public understanding and support before change has even a small chance of happening. I don't see this movement directly creating the support on it's current path but if there is something along more organised/effective lines in the future now that people are aware there is greater odds that they would receive public support than prior to the occupy movement. |
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| Endlesswave |
| quote: | Originally posted by feelgood
This.
Occupy X is a collection of first world problems. Its the self entitlement movement. |
Some of the first world problems (the most important) != the self entitlement movement. |
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| Vivid Boy |
| You act like the system is broken over here in Canada. I don't think it is, lookin around the world I think we're doing pretty good right now. I don't give a if some guy gets to drive a rolls royce and I don't, I'm quite comfortable and content with the way things are for me. Chances are the guy driving that rolls royce worries about a lot more then I do when he closes his eyes at night, that was his trade off for a fancy car. |
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| Endlesswave |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vivid Boy
You act like the system is broken over here in Canada. I don't think it is, lookin around the world I think we're doing pretty good right now. I don't give a if some guy gets to drive a rolls royce and I don't, I'm quite comfortable and content with the way things are for me. Chances are the guy driving that rolls royce worries about a lot more then I do when he closes his eyes at night, that was his trade off for a fancy car. |
That's not what I'm saying at all. I agree w what you were saying about the states/other countries.
Of course we have it good. |
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| Vivid Boy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Endlesswave
That's not what I'm saying at all. I agree w what you were saying about the states/other countries.
Of course we have it good. |
Referring to GGM's post lol |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| i think a poll with essentially a binary option is a little simplistic to convey my opinion on the matter. needless to say i both support and oppose the hippies, depending on which family they come from. if they're from the 'end the fed' sect of idiots then i would love to see them shot with non-rubber bullets. if they're more the sort that would prefer to see less money in washington, then those i could get behind. |
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| Endlesswave |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
if they're more the sort that would prefer to see less money in
washington, then those i could get behind. |
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| GGM |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vivid Boy
You act like the system is broken over here in Canada. I don't think it is, lookin around the world I think we're doing pretty good right now. I don't give a if some guy gets to drive a rolls royce and I don't, I'm quite comfortable and content with the way things are for me. Chances are the guy driving that rolls royce worries about a lot more then I do when he closes his eyes at night, that was his trade off for a fancy car. |
I know what you're saying and totally agree that we do have it better than most the world. 100 years ago I'm sure Canadians (and other first world nations) also felt they had it pretty good and better than most others too. Does that mean they should have sat idle and been happy with what they had, or was pushing for better human rights and democracy a good idea?
Our corporations are also doing a lot of that's going unchecked and hurting less fortunate people that only differ from us by the country they were born in. Our mining companies' work in Latin America, importing of sweat shop goods, exporting of asbestos, pollution from tar sands etc etc are all examples of how corporate profit is being put before human well being. Just because it doesn't hurt us doesn't mean it should continue. |
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| GGM |
| And don't get me wrong my ass aint out there supporting them, nor will it be with their current direction. My basic reason for not being against them or indifferent is that I think they provide more benefit to society (awareness) than detriment (loss of 1 park, minor taxes). |
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| evil_cookie |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mach X
For the ideal and basis behind the "movement" i'm all for it...
Against how they are going about it... it won't do .
If half of those hippies occupied those same streets a few weeks before well groomed, suited up, resume in hand and remove the stick from their ass... that would be better. Occupy a in job, any job, occupy some education and occupy some in ambition, motivation and hard work to actually put yourself in a position where you can be heard or make changes.
Everyone blames something, and it always be that way, but instead of bitching about it, realize it, suck it up and do your in best each and every day to make yourself better.
People putting up tents and holding signs and making a park smell like Patchouli is not going to do a god damned thing. |
That's very poetic. But essentially you've said nothing.
Your rant is as incoherent, and your views as simplistic, as some of those messages being expressed by the protesters. |
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