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Pursuing your dreams/goals and achieving them. (pg. 8)
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by ziptnf
but she has some sort of desire to quit her job so she can sit around her apartment and play video games, write stories and sell artwork. |
can't blame her for that! |
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| FuzzQi |
| quote: | Originally posted by Miss Pie
What is it, do you think, that separates those that get what they want from those that don't? |
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| ziptnf |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
can't blame her for that! |
I can when she starts complaining that she has no money lol |
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| raveed |
| quote: | Originally posted by Meat187
Not sure about inborn, but I completely disagree with the idea of talent being the most important factor. Talent might matter at the very top level, however reaching it has more to do with hard work. And maybe a more abstract "talent" for learning, improving and training. Some of it is inborn, alright. But I find the traditional idea of talent, as in "he's such a talented musician, one day he'll play in an orchestra" or "I have no musical talent at all, I could never learn how to play the violin" pretty stupid. |
Disagree! Your theory might be true in a few cases, but in most cases, if you are not naturally good at what you do, you will never be satisfied, especially if you have very high standards.
To quote a phrase from 'Strenghtsfinder (highly recommend buying the book and taking the test):
"No amount of training will help you excel in your areas of weakness. You can't do anything you want to do -- or be anything you want to be -- because you're just not going to be good at everything. But if you work with your talents, you can be extraordinary."
He goes on to cite the example of Michael Jordan and how he was the best basketball player of his generation yet sucked at baseball, even though he worked just as hard at it as he did in basketball. |
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| Spam |
I think it has a lot to do with self-awareness, more than anything else.
There are a million +1 examples of people that have a particular goal or desire, but absolutely no chance in hell of ever achieving the goal because they lack the talent or connections or whatever. Fat people that want to be sports stars, ugly people who can't sing that want to be famous singing superstars, people who can't cook french fries with a McDonalds timer that want to be chefs...
First and foremost, I think a successful person MUST be aware of their strengths and weaknesses, and then focus on a goal that accentuates their strengths, and hides, or minimizes their weaknesses.
Once they have done that, THEN all the other factors; ambition, hard work, persistence, charisma, commitement, etc. begin to factor into their success, and not equally. There are numerous examples of people who lack top talent, but become successful because those around them appreciate their personality, commitment, etc. While there are other numerous examples of people who NOBODY likes, but have such raw, exceptional talent at what they do that reach the top of the "success" ladder because they really ARE "Just that good."
On top of that, taking responsibility for your ups, and never committing them again is a factor that I might hold in higher regard than any other. A person who makes the same mistake 3 times, will probably make it a 4th, and so on, while someone who only makes the mistake once or twice is a person I consider to have true potential to "make it."
So assuming all equal opportunity, I would say that first and foremost, successful people are aware of what their strengths are, and have decided to pursue goals that match their abilities, and secondly, they take responsibility for their ups, and amend their actions accordingly. After those two things, I think that commitment to one's goals, raw talent, and charisma are the next-most important factors. |
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| BTG |
lol i dont' belong in this thread.:toothless
/leaves |
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| Vector A |
Neither do I really. I have plenty of dreams that I will never try to achieve because I am confident I lack the talent for them.
You and me, BTG. Underachievers unite.
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| Lira |
In a sense, I admire you two: I bet you can live a really pleasant life with a laidback attitude and not trying to go after something all the time.
Goals are definitely overrated... though I'm quite fond of mine. |
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| Silky Johnson |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spam
I think it has a lot to do with self-awareness, more than anything else.
There are a million +1 examples of people that have a particular goal or desire, but absolutely no chance in hell of ever achieving the goal because they lack the talent or connections or whatever. Fat people that want to be sports stars, ugly people who can't sing that want to be famous singing superstars, people who can't cook french fries with a McDonalds timer that want to be chefs...
First and foremost, I think a successful person MUST be aware of their strengths and weaknesses, and then focus on a goal that accentuates their strengths, and hides, or minimizes their weaknesses.
Once they have done that, THEN all the other factors; ambition, hard work, persistence, charisma, commitement, etc. begin to factor into their success, and not equally. There are numerous examples of people who lack top talent, but become successful because those around them appreciate their personality, commitment, etc. While there are other numerous examples of people who NOBODY likes, but have such raw, exceptional talent at what they do that reach the top of the "success" ladder because they really ARE "Just that good."
On top of that, taking responsibility for your ups, and never committing them again is a factor that I might hold in higher regard than any other. A person who makes the same mistake 3 times, will probably make it a 4th, and so on, while someone who only makes the mistake once or twice is a person I consider to have true potential to "make it."
So assuming all equal opportunity, I would say that first and foremost, successful people are aware of what their strengths are, and have decided to pursue goals that match their abilities, and secondly, they take responsibility for their ups, and amend their actions accordingly. After those two things, I think that commitment to one's goals, raw talent, and charisma are the next-most important factors. |
Word. :) |
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| Blake |
It's all to do with mentality. What is life, anyway, if not one huge mental exercise. Most people who don't achieve their goals are those whom (due to environment or other factors) never fully develop the mental faculties necessary to impact their own personal realities in such a way that they are able to bring their dreams and goals into being.
I don't believe in luck or chance. There is only causality which is within our understanding, and causality which is beyond our understanding/yet to be understood.
There are too many examples of people throughout history who've come out of all kinds of crazy situations in which the odds were stacked against them.
Most people who have the odds stacked against them, and never make it, are simply unable to visualize ways in which they can succeed. They defeat themselves early on, or they don't even have it within themselves to see a possible successful outcome (much in the same way that you or I may not be able to imagine successful outcomes for a particular person, based on our beliefs about how the laws of reality work). It's simply not within their range of thought, and so many of them lose without even having to defeat themselves.
A good all-inclusive example would be: What if a person wanted to become a toaster oven, or a folding chair? While most of us here would say that there's absolutely no chance of that happening, modern math and physics tell us that there is always at least a slim chance of just about anything happening :eyespop: . It lies within the individual to force him or herself onto the path of their deepest desires, or to just exist... |
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| 3xx3r7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Miss Pie
There is no such thing as luck! |
Of course there is. Consider a healthy young individual with great goals, aspirations and a hard working mindset. Consider another healthy young individual with great goals, aspirations and a hard working mindset, who is a son/daughter of Donald Trump. Now who has significantly higher chances achieving what they want? You can't be that naive. |
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