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Sopa / Pipa (pg. 6)
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| Storyteller |
| Very interesting indeed. Wouldn't that make the artist directly responsible for the copyright violation and breach of contract? Labels should start sueing their artists just like they did with consumers, but harsher, since this issue has the earlier mentioned problems as well as the attempt to profit instead of just sharing. If rightsholders wouldn't sue their own artists for the damages, I'd seriously question their agenda. |
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| dj_alfi |
Piracy isn't all bad imo. I have a handful of releases on Beatport and different sites. One of my collabs went to top 5 on trackitdown.net and was featured on several podcasts. I still haven't seen a dime from that release. Even with promotion you're still not making any money unless you sell in the tens of thousands.
A bit more recently, I stumbled across an EP on one of the bigger sites for pirated tech-stuff, it was mine. It was signed to a small, independent label run by a semi-known canadian DJ/Producer and was one of their first releases. Nonetheless, there it was; free of charge, ready to download on the pag. 5 releases per page, big artwork and tracklist.
Some people might see this as a giant step back, and now you're never gonna cash in on that "big hit" of yours. I see it slightly different; There are four other releases on the page, and in addition to the artist you'll also have remixers, so names I'm being associated with are artists like Sabb, David West, Belocca, Monika Kruse ++.
I realize this is probably all by chance, they probably just downloaded and posted most of what was being released that day, but nonetheless, my EP is now being featured for free amongst fresh releases from respected and way more popular artists. Is that a drawback for me? As we know, releases don't make money, so no minus there. Promotion cost money and time, which of I have little, and getting the news out about a new label isn't any easier than breaking through as an artist, and now more people know my name and music than if I'd ran $5000 worth of facebook ads.
So yeah.. the way I see it, piracy saved me at least 5000 bucks. |
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| Raphie |
you're so right on the artist money side :D nowadays you can be hapyy if you get money for a Happy Meal :D And that will not change.
However, for me not making money is not a reason to use warez myself. I would rather buy a DAW and 1 or 2 VSTi's and learn them inside out.
If everyone who's being pirated starts to pirate himself, that's the beginning of the end, isn't it? :D but that's back to the critical mass discussion earlier. Serious question, if all those VSTi's would be like 25/50$ rather than 300$ would you buy them then? Or owlud oyu not invest in software as long as you can find it for free full stop? curious where your turning point would be? |
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| dj_alfi |
| quote: | Originally posted by Raphie
If everyone who's being pirated starts to pirate himself, that's the beginning of the end, isn't it? |
Or the opposite.;) |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Raphie
If everyone who's being pirated starts to pirate himself, that's the beginning of the end, isn't it? :D |
I can already read the EM article on self-marketing featuring an up-and-coming artist who maintains, "My Beatport sales were pretty mediocre until I uploaded to an illegal file-sharing site." |
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| Raphie |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj_alfi
Or the opposite.;) |
Depends on what your wishing for i guess :D
If you wait for all commercial developers to go bust and don't mind going forward the software you got now or the freeware on KVR, then you just might be on your way :) |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| Artists that don't make money are artists tat would never of been signed in the days of vinyl. The reason you don't sell isthat you are not very good.the system is fine. Good artist make money. |
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| dj_alfi |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
Artists that don't make money are artists tat would never of been signed in the days of vinyl. The reason you don't sell isthat you are not very good.the system is fine. Good artist make money. |
Oh stfu looney. You know that's not true. |
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| Raphie |
talk about competition in EDM
producers are not looking for a market, they ARE the market, more to earn on producer/DJ ecosystem than fans.... |
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