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| Joss Weatherby |
| quote: | Originally posted by InnerReflection
you too
Because I believe every war US/UK/Australia has been in for at least the past 100 years has been total bull apart from world war 2 (which was purely defencive).
I doubt that sortof thing is going to change any time soon. I personally believe for instance that installing democracies through military intervention is a rather dumb idea and I can't possibly think of any other reasons to invade random places. |
You realize soldiers are not the ones who dictate policy right?
Every country needs a military, and while it is debatable if a professional military is a good thing or not vs. conscription (I'd argue a combination of both is the best), soldiers are still just doing their job and what their country calls on them to do. It is still a noble profession. What isn't noble is when politicians use them with disregard for the sacrifices that they and their loved ones make when they go into harms way. |
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| Joss Weatherby |
| quote: | Originally posted by InnerReflection
[edit] ok perhaps the war over those south american islands the UK was involved in was justified, but otherwise that's only one |
Yea, maybe you should sit down and look at your viewpoints on foreign policy, especially commonwealth foreign policy, which has had some serious missteps in the years after WW2. Right now you come across as very immature in your understanding of how the world works. |
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| InnerReflection |
I certainly sympathise and respect that view but I disagree. I think it's much better just to not be a part of the system and undermine it any way you can. The less volunteers there are the more expensive it is for the US to go screw up countries.
I most definitely do hold soldiers at least partially responsible.
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Yea, maybe you should sit down and look at your viewpoints on foreign policy, especially commonwealth foreign policy, which has had some serious missteps in the years after WW2. Right now you come across as very immature in your understanding of how the world works. |
I'm not sure what you're refering to exactly, but I'm definitely interested in learning more history.
Unless you're saying they should've invaded some countries which they didn't I don't really know how that's relevant though. |
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| Lews |
| You should read up on why people join the military and stop being such an immature douche. |
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| Joss Weatherby |
Well that is why I argue for a return to conscription and the draft. Sadly the recruiting system in this country overwhelmingly picks up poorer individuals because it is one of the few jobs they can get with little to no training before hand.
A mix of volunteers and conscripts with a draft is a way to have a highly trained military force that also creates the political pressure to not engage in adventure warfare.
One of the worst things to come out of the anti-war movement in the US was the removal of the draft. With out it now the general public can feel entirely detached from fighting because their sons and daughters will never be called upon to fight in a war not of their choosing. |
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| Joss Weatherby |
| quote: | Originally posted by InnerReflection
I'm not sure what you're refering to exactly, but I'm definitely interested in learning more history.
Unless you're saying they should've invaded some countries which they didn't I don't really know how that's relevant though. |
You argue that the Falklands conflict was some how a moral war when it was an extremely obvious example of British colonialism in the 20th century. How is that a justifiable conflict? |
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| InnerReflection |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Well that is why I argue for a return to conscription and the draft. Sadly the recruiting system in this country overwhelmingly picks up poorer individuals because it is one of the few jobs they can get with little to no training before hand.
A mix of volunteers and conscripts with a draft is a way to have a highly trained military force that also creates the political pressure to not engage in adventure warfare.
One of the worst things to come out of the anti-war movement in the US was the removal of the draft. With out it now the general public can feel entirely detached from fighting because their sons and daughters will never be called upon to fight in a war not of their choosing. |
That is actually a possible solution. Especially if it's both male and female and females are on the frontline as well. That's a pretty good idea.
Regardless, the current system is hell and I want nothing to do with it and I don't get why anyone does. I mean in the US the amount they spend on military spending is insane. Lots of it doesn't even go into effective military spending, the amount of corruption in the mercanary business is insane.
And lews, our views are too different, yes I'm aware why people join the military like the bloody air heads and or racists most (not all) of them are. I'll debate with you a bit if you want but I think it'd be pointless. We have different political views. |
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| Vivid Boy |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
Bull. It's robbery. the commission real estate agents charge is utter ing nonesense and gross multiplication of the "fees" it costs you to sell the house.
You make $25,000 from selling a $1m house, and it will probably cost you less than $10,000 in real out of pocket all said and done.
Don't forget all those "fees" you speak of are charged to the seller, and the buyer pays a ton of charges and fees too and both of them have to cover escrow.
You want $15k profit for uploading it to the MLS and doing a few showings while people try to avoid your slimy sales pitch and eating the lack lustre cheese plate you supplied?
At least know your subject matter: all sale prices are public information in every state as property tax and land values are public record.
just go on to redfin, zillow or any of the other 100 sites that list at least basic free historical sale information.
Maintaining your license (depending on state) costs less than $5k a year. Nearly any profession requires regular education to safeguard your clients. It's a fraction compered to similar jobs like quality assurance managers or architects.
Best advice? Get a lawyer to be your agent; they can handle all the paperwork and many have real estate licenses as well, and the best thing? FLAT FEE.
I did and rather than paying 2.5%, I paid $2.5k all in, no bull sales pitches, no inflation of prices, no backhand deals or kickbacks between agents to mutually their clients. |
you do realize I live in Canada where the rules are much different? |
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| InnerReflection |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
You argue that the Falklands conflict was some how a moral war when it was an extremely obvious example of British colonialism in the 20th century. How is that a justifiable conflict? |
I don't know much about the Falklands, I assumed it was purely defensive. Still though what I do know is that the Argentineans had no actual claim on it (despite it bordering their country) and the local residents did not want to join Argentina. Why should the Argentineans then be allowed to seize that by force? |
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| Vivid Boy |
and if sales was such an easy job where all you do is make money why isn't the whole world doing it? oh ya because not everyone can sell.
The truth is more then 3/4 of you who say you can do exactly what a real estate agent can do for a fraction of the price are people that work part time have no family, have no prior obligations and literally have a ton of time on your hands. If you're in that position by all means cut out the middle guy and do the work yourself. It'll take you longer because you don't have the same knowledge or resources but you have free time anyways. |
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| Joss Weatherby |
| quote: | Originally posted by InnerReflection
And lews, our views are too different, yes I'm aware why people join the military like the bloody air heads and or racists most (not all) of them are. I'll debate with you a bit if you want but I think it'd be pointless. We have different political views. |
The US military has a large number of minorities in it and most of them are from lower middle class to lower class family backgrounds.
Yes, there is racism in the military, but its not policy, nor is it systemic in promotions. A lot of it has to do with the culture involved, but in the end it comes down to who is going to do a good job, and those ties cross racial boundaries all the time.
If you are talking about racism towards the people they are involved with in theater, that is part of the culture as well. Its not exactly politically correct, but its how they cope. Its not something that is specific to the US either. Demonizing and dehumanizing the enemy is part of what keeps them able to fight, and that practice has existed for the history of warfare, which is as long as the history of humanity. |
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| Vivid Boy |
actually why am I even arguing. I'll just post pictures of cool all this sales money buys me that you can't afford with your 9-5. speaking of which, I've never seen the Maldives going to go book a trip right now, It's not hard to get the time off anyways because I work in sales. Easiest job eveeeeerrrrrrrr
trollololol |
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