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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vivid Boy
you do realize I live in Canada where the rules are much different? |
Not really - my next door neighbour is Canadian and happens to be a real estate agent here in LA. She said it's more or less the same everywhere, and if anything more difficult in the USA as it's a far more litigious society.
| quote: | Originally posted by Vivid Boy
nd if sales was such an easy job where all you do is make money why isn't the whole world doing it? oh ya because not everyone can sell.
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If you can speak and have an ounce of brain matter, then you can do sales. In fact sales requires far less brain power than most jobs need. I've sold everything from space on the back of till roles, to 5* hotel rooms, to executive (private) club memberships, to stock options, to broadcast audio equipment.
Selling houses is a ing breeze; people come to you to buy the thing. Like shooting fish in a barrel, and that's why I tell anyone who will listen to cut out the guy in the bad suit driving a 6 year old maserati.
| quote: | Originally posted by Vivid Boy
The truth is more then 3/4 of you who say you can do exactly what a real estate agent can do for a fraction of the price are people that work part time have no family, have no prior obligations and literally have a ton of time on your hands. If you're in that position by all means cut out the middle guy and do the work yourself. It'll take you longer because you don't have the same knowledge or resources but you have free time anyways.
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I own a business. Employ four people and have commitments on two different continents. So no, I don't need an agent and I would love to know what "resources" you keep mentioning but fail to detail? The MLS? A staging company? Decorators? Escrow Agents? Someone to open the door and sit there with a sign in sheet?
I mean come on' you act like it's rocket science.
Sell your house though an agent if you're lazy or dumb, fine, but otherwise all you need is a decent lawyer and at $300 an hour it will still cost you only 25% of what an agent will charge you.
And the best part? They won't screw you. Seriously, with exception to my neighbor who is happy to sell a few houses to her direct neighbors each year, ever single estate agent I've ever known has been a complete douchebag. |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| DJ RANN doesn't need a real estate agent, so all real estate agents are worthless. |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vivid Boy
you do realize I live in Canada where the rules are much different? |
2.5% for the buyer 2.5% for teh selling agent is the general rule
seller pays all commissions docked from the sale price.
if you arent careful some buying agents try to charge you an extra comission on top of that.
Do your own due diligence.. this is the most important thing of all.. just like we shouldn't really feel too badly for people who got dooped by sub prime mortgages, it's ultimately the fault of the buyer or seller who lists with the agent when they end up paying too much. |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
DJ RANN doesn't need a real estate agent, so all real estate agents are worthless. |
Damn straight. Thanks.:p |
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| Looney4Clooney |
i think they have a purpose if you are looking for land for investment but you need an agent you can trust and that is something that costs money and you tend to have a long relationship with. My parents have been dealing with the same team for 20 years. And since they make sizeable purchases, there is a mutual interest to help each other out. They find the property , do the leg work and that is worth the money they get paid.
But it is alot like lawyers, you pay for their connections. The difference between a good lawyer and a bad lawyer usually has more to do with how often they have lunch with the DA. Its a people business and 40 years of contacts is something people pay for. And since lawyers make money, they tend to know the good agents, and well its one big circle of fat cats that work for those of means. And it isn't a two way street. Clients don't just pick their agents. It is often the other way around. I had a legal affair for which my daddy was able to secure a decent lawyer who would never bother with such an insignificant thing.
But vivid boy, you might be great, i don't know but I sometimes wonder how much of your tribe speak mannerisms manifest themselves in real life. They would preclude you from this sort of level. You are too young for one, you have a used car salesman vibe and I wonder if you are the exact type of agent those that actually run the show sort of consider an embarrassment to the overall industry.
If you want to roll with the people you seem to feel you should be rolling with, you need to develop a certain level of class that is hard to learn. I just don't see you making anyone with money comfortable. But maybe you are actually different and if you were more vulnerable , we would all see that. |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
i think they have a purpose if you are looking for land for investment but you need an agent you can trust and that is something that costs money and you tend to have a long relationship with. My parents have been dealing with the same team for 20 years. And since they make sizeable purchases, there is a mutual interest to help each other out. They find the property , do the leg work and that is worth the money they get paid. |
You're spot-on, but the conversation at hand has I think been more geared toward selling property. Which RANN and Karim are probably right about : you get ed if you use an agent and possess even an elementary knowledge of the process and who you should actually be using.
I only have experience with buying a home, but my real estate agent was invaluable in determining not only... you know, this sentence. She was invaluable in absolutely every step of the process. She was not only a friend of my family, but had helped my father purchase several properties before, and had her own zillow-esque website where I could search for properties, send her links for ones I thought looked interesting, then set up prompt appointments to go tour them. Maybe I lucked out, but she knew absolutely everything about the entire process, to which I was likewise entirely ignorant of. She urged me to buy the house I currently live in after touring almost a dozen other homes, and although it seemed like many of the others I had seen, I cannot deny I am extremely happy with it. Not only that, but her expertise literally paid off: Not only did I pay only 80% of its appraised value, it has gone up in value almost 35% in just a year of owning it. I know this was not her doing, but the state of the US housing market, but I can't help but attribute her urging as the tipping point that finds me in a fortuitous position to heavily refinance in the coming month.
//The acreage my dad lives on happens to have a load of shale movement and oil/gas beneath it. She bloodhounded that , even though she didn't have a lucid clue. This woman's a domicile shaman, I swear ta gahd. Colorado's not the midwest by the way, fucker. :D |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
But maybe you are actually different and if you were more vulnerable , we would all see that. |
You've obviously never met EricB! |
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| Ted Promo |
| I find, when your boss is making you have a fistful of sads, take them on BRAZZERS. They may not get to know it at first/fist. But if you can make it worth their while, then you may get all things in all and for once and all. And you may get to know their blood type through a glance and a nod. |
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| InnerReflection |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
we shouldn't really feel too badly for people who got dooped by sub prime mortgages |
I disagree, they were obviously quite dumb, but it really shouldn't have even been possible in the first place.
What's the point of selling a house to someone who in no way can even remotely afford to pay? In what way does that benefit the consumer? There's no comparison to overpaying for something. |
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| Vivid Boy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
You're spot-on, but the conversation at hand has I think been more geared toward selling property. Which RANN and Karim are probably right about : you get ed if you use an agent and possess even an elementary knowledge of the process and who you should actually be using.
I only have experience with buying a home, but my real estate agent was invaluable in determining not only... you know, this sentence. She was invaluable in absolutely every step of the process. She was not only a friend of my family, but had helped my father purchase several properties before, and had her own zillow-esque website where I could search for properties, send her links for ones I thought looked interesting, then set up prompt appointments to go tour them. Maybe I lucked out, but she knew absolutely everything about the entire process, to which I was likewise entirely ignorant of. She urged me to buy the house I currently live in after touring almost a dozen other homes, and although it seemed like many of the others I had seen, I cannot deny I am extremely happy with it. Not only that, but her expertise literally paid off: Not only did I pay only 80% of its appraised value, it has gone up in value almost 35% in just a year of owning it. I know this was not her doing, but the state of the US housing market, but I can't help but attribute her urging as the tipping point that finds me in a fortuitous position to heavily refinance in the coming month.
//The acreage my dad lives on happens to have a load of shale movement and oil/gas beneath it. She bloodhounded that , even though she didn't have a lucid clue. This woman's a domicile shaman, I swear ta gahd. Colorado's not the midwest by the way, fucker. :D |
hal don't fret. karim and clooney are just those type of guys who speak on where they have no knowledge. They're like those guys who don't watch any footie but every 4 years during the world cup they have these huge opinions on the game and everyone just stares at hoping their next sentence is their last. |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vivid Boy
hal don't fret. karim and clooney are just those type of guys who speak on where they have no knowledge. They're like those guys who don't watch any footie but every 4 years during the world cup they have these huge opinions on the game and everyone just stares at hoping their next sentence is their last. |
No knowledge. LOL while i'm not buying and selling houses every week, i think it's better to hear an opinion of someone who uses the salesman than the actual salesman himself (who's likely to have a biased towards his "honest" living profession).
As i said, sometimes it's great to have a real estate agent, but the majority of the time, your own agent is usually acting against you either to higher the price if you want to buy, or lower it when you want to sell. Use them to do what you want, don't listen to what they want. They should just be there to get you the buyer or seller and arrange the deal.. nothing more. (IMO)
I've been actively looking for a second property to buy for the past while and i've dealt with several agents.
I currently own a property and ive helped out siblings and watched my parents go through several realestate deals.
edit: 2 more years till the next world cup! |
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| Vivid Boy |
| buying a shirt from walmart doesn't make you a qualified store manager |
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