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Delerium Feat. Sarah McLachlan - Silence (DJ Tiesto's ISOS Remix) = greatest vocal trance track ever (pg. 11)
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| Paradox Lost |
| quote: | Originally posted by lacedpills
Really?
I don't mean to create an offtopic tangent for this thread but can you give an example? |
There's actually a well-circulated live festival set from around 2007/8 in which Oakey is trainwrecking nearly every single transition thoroughout his entire set; sounded like the ing Kentucky Derby, which he attributed to a blown monitor. Granted, this is only one (extreme) example, which may very well be on account of his explanation, but his mixing skills on any other night/compilation are no better than that of a competent bedroom DJ.
Anyone have a link to the set I'm talking about, or at least know which one I'm referring to? |
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| lacedpills |
| quote: | Originally posted by Paradox Lost
There's actually a well-circulated live festival set from around 2007/8 in which Oakey is trainwrecking nearly every single transition thoroughout his entire set; sounded like the ing Kentucky Derby, which he attributed to a blown monitor. Granted, this is only one (extreme) example, which may very well be on account of his explanation, but his mixing skills on any other night/compilation are no better than that of a competent bedroom DJ.
Anyone have a link to the set I'm talking about, or at least know which one I'm referring to? |
just like me in 2011? :stongue: |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Paradox Lost
Anyone have a link to the set I'm talking about, or at least know which one I'm referring to? |
Essential Mix, Live @ Amnesia, 2006.
I shouldn't have to give an example of Oakenfold's mixing to someone who claims to be able to DJ. If you have any understanding of DJing, just listen to any of his live-sets (ones where you can actually hear the live mixing, rather than his mocked-up-in-the-studio "live" sessions like the Rojam mix) and you'll be able to hear for yourself. |
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| Lews |
| quote: | Originally posted by lacedpills
I don't mean to create an offtopic tangent for this thread but can you give an example? |
Come on, man. Probably the worst example is Global Underground Oslo, but it's always obvious.
Jack, I haven't listened to Rojam in a while, since I don't have many of the old Essential Mixes anymore; was it really a studio mix? |
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| Kilixpree |
btw:
http://www.trancetop1000.com/TranceTop1000-2013.html
2. Delerium feat. Sarah McLachlan - Silence (Tiësto's In Search Of Sunrise Remix)
YEAH SILENCE IS TH EGREATEST VOCAL TRANCE TRACK EVER
oh wait, there's more W&W than airwave, joof, banco de gaia etc together LOL |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
Jack, I haven't listened to Rojam in a while, since I don't have many of the old Essential Mixes anymore; was it really a studio mix? |
I would bet every penny I own that it wasn't recorded live at the Rojam. I can't hear any of the signs of a live mix at all: no thickening or thinning of the bass, no minor corrections, no phasing whatsoever. All that and the quality of mixing is suspiciously higher than what Oakenfold usually managed. If you compare it to his World Tour mix live from Liverpool University you can hear those signs, because that set was actually recorded live. |
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| Syntonic |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I would bet every penny I own that it wasn't recorded live at the Rojam. I can't hear any of the signs of a live mix at all: no thickening or thinning of the bass, no minor corrections, no phasing whatsoever. All that and the quality of mixing is suspiciously higher than what Oakenfold usually managed. If you compare it to his World Tour mix live from Liverpool University you can hear those signs, because that set was actually recorded live. |
Love that Rojam set, but I'm glad I'm not the only one who suspects a pre-recorded set. The mixing is all too perfect for his ability, absolutely no phasing is right...not even a millisecond. Think of the tremendous pressure being the first westerner to be allowed in China for decades to just spin records. The set is pretty awesome though regardless.
I've listened to most of his Essential Mix World Tour sets and the mixing sucks for the most part. |
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| srussell0018 |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Well neither are trance, which is probably a factor.
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What makes them not trance? I'm actually asking so please no cheeky "not being trance makes them not trance" answers. |
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| Kilixpree |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
What makes them not trance? I'm actually asking so please no cheeky "not being trance makes them not trance" answers. |
YEAH HAVE BEATS SO ITS TRANCE. |
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| srussell0018 |
| off, it's a legitimate question. You don't see much prog or house at 130-140bpm. I'm asking what specific elements make it whatever genre they're considered. From what I've seen, You Are Sleeping is Progressive House and Born Slippy is Techno, but why? How is a driving 140bpm track like Born Slippy considered Techno? |
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| Kilixpree |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
off, it's a legitimate question. You don't see much prog or house at 130-140bpm. I'm asking what specific elements make it whatever genre they're considered. From what I've seen, You Are Sleeping is Progressive House and Born Slippy is Techno, but why? How is a driving 140bpm track like Born Slippy considered Techno? |
ok, its a good question. about born slippy, maybe missing the 1-2-2, 1-2-2, 1-2-2 bassline, a random pad... |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| The majority of techno in the '90s was 140bpm+ and very banging. Born Slippy is a weird record really (it doesn't even have a bassline), it's not really a genre record at all, but it's certainly much closer to techno than trance. I don't really hear any trance elements in it at all. You Are Sleeping could be considered progressive trance at a push, but by the early '00s "prog" was such a big scene and sound that people didn't consider those records subordinate to house or trance. I would not say 130bpm (which is the tempo of You Are Sleeping) is unusual for a prog track in any way. |
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