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WTF National Security Agency records all of the phone records of Verizon customers (pg. 12)
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Desiderata
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Originally posted by colonelcrisp
my humble $0.02 for amurica...

if you dont like big brother feeling the need to act like your overprotective mother in the name of "national security" stop pissing in everyone's pool around the globe.... Maybe, just maybe, if your gov didn't act like such ignorant cocks when it comes to international affairs and other things such as... oh i dont know.... assassinating people in foreign lands with drones..... they may be less inclined to try and blow you up?


Agree with you but what can the average citizen do but vote for the lesser evil?

By the way I know you were just speaking in general terms.
Spacey Orange
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Originally posted by srussell0018
How the is he a hero? By EXPOSING something that's COMPLETELY LEGAL?



If the government is doing it, it must be legal. I like your reasoning.

Jog along you . This thread is for patriots.
enydo
PATRIOTS
srussell0018
IF A COURT APPROVED IT, IT MUST BE ILLEGAL. WAIT
Desiderata
quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Nobody is actually listening in on your phone calls. The government does not care about the perverted you say to your girlfriend or where you get your weed from. They do not have time to listen in on your conversations. The enormous volumes of traffic they are monitoring are far too great. Your privacy is basically worthless, because nobody cares about your life in the first place.

As for the subject of voting, I consider it a complete and utter myth that it would make any difference to the introduction of such policies. This kind of thing will happen and continues to happen no matter which party or politician ends up in power, and there are far too many flaws on just about every level of the democratic system for good political policy to actually be consistently rewarded. The only merit voting has is to sustain the overall structure of democracy, whereby leaders must at least affect a pretext of caring for their people if they want to prolong their personal spasm of power. So don't worry about taking responsibility for anything, because you have no real influence anyway.


Couldn't have said it better.
Lews
Snowden is an idiot, Greenwald is an idiot, this whole thing is bull.

A good article on how the story has changed considerably from the first mentions:

http://www.zdnet.com/the-real-story...ism-7000016570/



Interesting tidbit:

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/...lman-92505.html

Greenwald claims he's been working with Snowden since February. Snowden get the job with BAH in March.



There is no scary story here - this guy is no hero.
zGoogleman
quote:
Originally posted by Desiderata
Agree with you but what can the average citizen do but vote for the lesser evil?

By the way I know you were just speaking in general terms.


The average person is FOR drone strikes and American government interfering overseas. So really the people in the states get whatever they deserve. With the federal government becoming more concerned about issues overseas and domestic government becoming more concerned about ripping private wealth off its citizens. Eventually things will come to a point it cannot continue anymore.
srussell0018


That reporter sounds like an idiot who "broke" a story that wasn't really a story for no reason and is now throwing hissy fits at anyone who questions the authenticity of it.
EarnYourKeep
pkcRAISTLIN
quote:
Originally posted by Spacey Orange


Your understanding of the world is infantile. this is why grownups formulate policy and the great un-washed mill about doing sweet all and influencing nobody.

pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by SherlockCrash
Spacey Orange, you should know better then to question things. That makes you retarded. If you don't want to be retarded any longer, just accept everything that's happening around you without giving it a second thought. You will then be all knowing and can tell other, still retarded people on forums how stupid they are when they can't see the obvious; Secretly collecting information isn't the same thing as spying.


you have deep-seated intellectual, emotional and/or psychological issues. seek professional help and stop wasting time with paranoid nonsense. ie grow the up .
Spacey Orange
quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
Your understanding of the world is infantile. this is why grownups formulate policy and the great un-washed mill about doing sweet all and influencing nobody.



that is rich, coming from someone who spends countless hours playing video games.
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