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Terrorist Attack Paris Shooting (pg. 17)
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| TranceElevation |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
When there's a plethora of credible sources |
Define a credible source first. No source is credible in itself. What you're calling a source might be a perspective or in my opinion a deliberate operation.
| quote: | | Originally posted by Lira saying precisely what happened, giving you detailed accounts of what happened, |
Don't see how creating or writing something detailed adds to the credibility you're talking about.
| quote: | | Originally posted by Lira and others are telling you they have first-hand account of what happened, and the fate is a massacre right after it happened, it's hard to believe for a moment that you're doubting, and not just basking in the attention you seem to be craving for. |
What would I gain from this "attention"? The only attention I wanted was for the content I post or the questions I raise, but you keep diverting the focus on my persona rather than on the subject of this thread. In other words you've been systematically pushing this thread off topic. Not really a proper behavior for a mode. Actually, such conduct is much more reminding of a troll than anything I've talked about so far.
It seems like you should "moderate yourself".
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira Otherwise you'd have given up "asking for facts" long ago.
That would also be offensive. It doesn't make what you're doing any less insulting.
I'm not arbitrarily banning you. I'm giving you a warning. I'm letting you know in advance you've crossed a line. Whether or not you agree with me (or think I'm competent), that's a whole different matter.
Anyway, you know precisely what to do and what to refrain from doing. It's your call. |
Basically you have no objective reason to ban me. You're letting your personal emotions guide you.
Moderate yourself. |
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| TranceElevation |
| quote: | Originally posted by soulstar606
i think that reasonably....youve put enough evidence that people can go to those vids themselves and decide...but sometimes, you make your points...and then you just let it simmer....but i also think that if someone banned you for hoenestly trying to state your opinions, and posting videos with lots of thumbs up, with actual evidence of them.....it would be completely irresponsible...
you're not being offensive imo at all....this whole "mourning" thing is ridiculous...different people react to different things in different ways......some people need to feel like ..and make everyone else around them feel that way in order for them to feel right....
other people will laugh in the face of adversity and not let dampen their life...laughter and humour are the best medicine for tragedy imo
one of the best things about trance addicts is it has good mods......mods who let people have some fun and also let people speak their minds...
a forum is only as good as the mods it chooses...because once you pick a bad mod...you ruin the forum
a bad mod..imo, is someone who is incapable of seeing things objectively....and who lets their personal emotions getting in the way of thigns..
a bad mod is someone who doesnt understand how to be the bigger person...and realize that people are all unique...and have different ways of how they look at things.....but i get what youre saying....that it might be getting just to be too much.....because i think hes made his point...hes put alot of vids up all detailing how this could be a psyop.
People have a peculiar pleasure in making converts, that is, in causing others to enjoy what they enjoy, thus finding their own likeness represented and reflected back to them.
~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe |
Thank you.
I don't ask nor force people to agree with me. I just expose my vision on things. If you disagree ok, but that shouldn't be a reason to remove someone. You don't like me? Ok, it's not like you're obliged to follow this thread. If I remember correctly there is an "ignore" option on this forum.
I'm off to sleep. Bye. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceElevation
What you're calling a source might be a perspective or in my opinion a deliberate operation. |
Nope, not being sucked into this, you've had plenty of explanation up to this point. I told you to drop it. You didn't. Enjoy your off time.
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceElevation
Basically you have no objective reason to ban me. You're letting your personal emotions guide you. |
Wait, just to finish this, let me play your own game:
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceElevation
No source is credible in itself. |
If no source is credible, then you're not a credible source to say I'm not being objective either. Hence, I shouldn't believe you.
Case closed. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by soulstar606
i think that reasonably....youve put enough evidence that people can go to those vids themselves and decide...but sometimes, you make your points...and then you just let it simmer....but i also think that if someone banned you for hoenestly trying to state your opinions, and posting videos with lots of thumbs up, with actual evidence of them.....it would be completely irresponsible...
you're not being offensive imo at all....this whole "mourning" thing is ridiculous...different people react to different things in different ways......some people need to feel like ..and make everyone else around them feel that way in order for them to feel right....
other people will laugh in the face of adversity and not let dampen their life...laughter and humour are the best medicine for tragedy imo
one of the best things about trance addicts is it has good mods......mods who let people have some fun and also let people speak their minds...
a forum is only as good as the mods it chooses...because once you pick a bad mod...you ruin the forum
a bad mod..imo, is someone who is incapable of seeing things objectively....and who lets their personal emotions getting in the way of thigns..
a bad mod is someone who doesnt understand how to be the bigger person...and realize that people are all unique...and have different ways of how they look at things.....but i get what youre saying....that it might be getting just to be too much.....because i think hes made his point...hes put alot of vids up all detailing how this could be a psyop.
People have a peculiar pleasure in making converts, that is, in causing others to enjoy what they enjoy, thus finding their own likeness represented and reflected back to them.
~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe |
you sound like a gay. |
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| SherlockCrash |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
there are so many levels of stupid in the CT mindset, but the hollywood/entertainment foreknowledge/cryptic clues have got to be right up there with the best.
"the elite" like to leave hidden messages in popular culture that tell of their evil schemes, sometimes decades ahead of time. so they can...what, exactly? make maniacal laughter at how clever they are? lol. |
I do not claim to have knowledge about how these things happens, or why. All I know is that they are happening. That is a fact without a doubt. And it amazes me, just how is it possible?
So what exactly is it that is stupid about it? Is it me questioning it, or the fact that the writing's on the wall?
How, and why did a bridge in Terminator 2 get the writing "caution 9-11" painted across? Is there any logical explanation? In my opinion yes, could it be more then one logical explanation, yes. All I know for now is that the writing is there, and I'm interested to know why.
If questioning that makes me dumb or a "conspiracy theorist", then so be it, it doesn't take much these days.
What exactly is it you are saying, that the "cryptic clues" aint there, or that people are stupid for questioning them? |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by SherlockCrash
All I know is that they are happening. That is a fact without a doubt. |
you keep using that word. i do not think it means what you think it means.
| quote: | Originally posted by SherlockCrash
So what exactly is it that is stupid about it? |
everything. everything is stupid about it.
| quote: | Originally posted by SherlockCrash
How, and why did a bridge in Terminator 2 get the writing "caution 9-11" painted across? Is there any logical explanation? In my opinion yes, could it be more then one logical explanation, yes. All I know for now is that the writing is there, and I'm interested to know why. |
hahahaha. see, this is what i mean about stupid. it doesn't say "caution 9-11", it says "caution 9 feet 11 inches", einstein.
and you wonder why you get such derision. thinking that hollywood predicts the future and sends out secret messages on behalf of the NWO is not rational, reasonable or normal.
| quote: | Originally posted by SherlockCrash
What exactly is it you are saying, that the "cryptic clues" aint there, or that people are stupid for questioning them? |
i am saying that the cryptic clues aren't there and (as per exhibit A: terminator 2) you're either simple-minded or possibly suffering from under-developed areas of the brain. |
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| SherlockCrash |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
you keep using that word. i do not think it means what you think it means.
everything. everything is stupid about it.
hahahaha. see, this is what i mean about stupid. it doesn't say "caution 9-11", it says "caution 9 feet 11 inches", einstein.
and you wonder why you get such derision. thinking that hollywood predicts the future and sends out secret messages on behalf of the NWO is not rational, reasonable or normal.
i am saying that the cryptic clues aren't there and (as per exhibit A: terminator 2) you're either simple-minded or possibly suffering from under-developed areas of the brain. |
I have never seen that kind of writing on a bridge, and in my country we do not use feet as measurement. I can admit that I feel a little stupid now though. But I rather question one thing too much then one too little.
Maybe all the drills have a similar explanation.
Have a nice day on that high horse of yours. |
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| Trance-M |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
Seriously!? You'll keep on trolling!? One more callous post and you're suspended, TranceElevation. You've been warned.
Nah, he's got to be trolling. My faith in humanity refuses to believe he's for real. |
I'm afraid he's not, also I'm shocked after reading the huge amount of comments at the Youtube hoax videos of people who share his views.
Most shocking is that besides the people who comment there must be many more morons out there.
We can't and don't need to present any proof as if we do they will say it's fake anyways. Probably after they see the interview with the Eagles of Death Metal members they still will say that's fake.
Let's see what they say about people who are much easier to trace like the people of the record label who died: Thomas Ayad, Marie Mosser and Manu Perez. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by SherlockCrash
I have never seen that kind of writing on a bridge, and in my country we do not use feet as measurement. |
Conspiracy theories are, in many ways, much like modern day religions. They take a "gut feeling" interpretation of reality involving omnipotent, unseen powers in control of everything and reverse engineer all evidence to fit their initial preconception. The vast majority of your "facts" are simply things beyond your understanding, much like how religion in the past would take straightforward scientific phenomena and ascribe it as the work of God. Most of these "theories" are not deductive reasoning in the slightest - if you didn't have your superstitious paranoia in the first place, none of this "evidence" could possibly be taken seriously.
Look at TranceElevation's laughable claim that nobody actually died, and that they were all actors. The levels of contradiction and implausibility are off the chart.
1. Does he seriously, genuinely believe that 130 people did not die and that nobody on the planet is actually mourning them? That actually everybody who is claiming to have known one of the dead is also a paid actor? Did they pay off multi-millionaire professional footballer Lassana Diarra to pretend his cousin died in the attacks as well? The amount of people in on this conspiracy must run into the thousands.
2. Does he really believe that they would create fake social media accounts for some victims (but not others) and then deliberately put their occupations down as actors? Why? Why? Are we implying that they are fake, non-existent people, or that they're all paid actors who now have to assume a different identity and pretend they're dead for the rest of their lives?
3. What about all the witnesses, the paramedics, the people who tried to help, who ended up covered in blood? All paid-off actors as well? How many people are now involved in this conspiracy? Half the population of Paris, it seems.
4. Let's say we actually believe that "the elite" wanted to simulate a terrorist attack to create paranoia and allow them to control their own people, or justify another war, or whatever motivation you want to think of. It would be far, far easier, more simple and more credible for them to just arm some genuine extremists who actually went out and murdered a load of people and then were shot or blew themselves up. No actors who need to go into hiding, much less people involved, much less that can go wrong, actual dead people... And as PKC said, the elite are evil. They start wars for their own profit, they tear countries apart for their own purposes. Why would they have any problem murdering 130 people if their objective was to start a whole ing war?
The only "fact" here is that this whole idea is extremely ing stupid. Monumentally stupid. They've got a preconception that a conspiracy must have taken place and they have bent a bunch of minor gaps in information, a few slightly odd features of an incident, into a laughably, comically stupid evil plot. It's the logic of a child, or someone who at least has no real understanding of how the world works. |
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| planetaryplayer |
| let us not forget that soulstar thinks the attack was staged by the lizard kings who live underground with future technologies that convinced world leaders to do their bidding |
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| Dykes_on_Jay |
| Smells like jews to me. |
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