Another thing that strikes me as odd is that the purpotrators were carrying their passports. I haven't dug deeply enough as I am up to the neck with work, but it's crazy to learn one or more passports were recovered intact. I'm guessing these are not the passports of those who had explosives in their goddamn waist.
If you were to kill hundreds, I guess you would want to die a martyr and make sure your passports would provide such reference.
Let me just say that the FB Profile with RWB filter is sort of stupid, I'm in no way criticizing you, so don't take it personal. I'm stating that filtering your social media avatar is a bit ... Basic.
AmberLea
No worries, Sweets. But maybe you are on to something with your theory. A Syrian passport was found on one of the terrorists in the club who killed himself with a suicide bomb when police stormed in. There's a lot of speculation, how did a paper passport withstand a bomb? Reminiscent of passports 'found' on 911 terrorists who crashed planes & blew up buildings ....
Alex
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Originally posted by ViceroySF
Am I the only one who believes this is a black flag event orchestrated by the shadow government? How does ISIS get away with this? 8 guys against hundreds? Who funds ISIS? Where do they get their guns?
This is an attack on our civil liberties? using Radical Islam as a scapegoat? Pure speculation. The lives were real and the events seem to be legitimate. It's not far fetched to see a well organized extremist faction purport atrocities of this sort. It's a lot harder to design propulsion systems that can take us to Jupiter.
In no way am I belittling the events of nov 13th, my deepest condolences. Miss Kittin and Madonna are right, love and fun will conquer all.
What's sad about this post is that it still makes a lot more sense than the other dude insisting all world leaders are lizards.
Alex
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Originally posted by AmberLea
No worries, Sweets. But maybe you are on to something with your theory. A Syrian passport was found on one of the terrorists in the club who killed himself with a suicide bomb when police stormed in. There's a lot of speculation, how did a paper passport withstand a bomb? Reminiscent of passports 'found' on 911 terrorists who crashed planes & blew up buildings ....
You realize that the type of bomb they used in Paris wasn't a nuclear weapon right?
Bombs don't destroy absolutely everything in their path.
AlphaStarred
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Originally posted by AmberLea
Was waiting for the nut job conspiracy theorist to stand up. What gets me, is if they had to ability to drone Jihadi John in Syria from a bunker in Nevada.... why haven't they been systematically taking these bastards out?
Because ISIS blends in with the population. They're not all situated in one condensed space where you could just take them all out. They would've done that already, if that were the case.
LoveHate
ViceroySF
D'OH....got uber distracted and started facepuking and *&^*
anyways, leave it to the guys from zero hedge to tell us "the truth". So the passport is from one of the suicide bombers.
that makes NOOO sense NONE. Then France "retaliated" this morning, and what France fails to acknowledge is that this expected reactionary war tactic, filled with passion and emotions, isn't optimal; unless this attack is merely seen as an opportunity to carry out one's geopolitical goals: overthrowing Al Assad! Emotional paybacks don't bode well with a cold and serene monarch.
Viber
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Originally posted by LoveHate
Dude, why do you watch the Putin channel?
planetaryplayer
i want to know about the 991 inside job and reptilian lords targeting death metal concerts .
haven't caught the news in a while. what seems to be the cause? is it ISIS or are the clues planted ?
pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by ViceroySF
Am I the only one who believes this is a black flag event orchestrated by the shadow government?
no, there are many colossal wits online that would agree with your childish worldview. why dont you off and find them?
Serial Killer
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Originally posted by Swamper
The EU is in for some hard decisions in in 2016 regarding its open border policy.
not 2016..but Right Now !!!! This will continue to occur
If only Europe could turn the clock couple of months back back to the beginning of the invasion
Swamper
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Originally posted by LoveHate
Have to disagree with you some what on this. In the 90s al qaeda made many many threats to america and we didn't do anything to them we didn't force are way of life on them US foreign policy economic police I don't think had anything to with it. At the time Bill Clinton wanted to take the route Obama has be taking airstrikes. Al qaeda attacked a few things before 9/11 and the Clinton ignored it. Then 9/11 happened and GB handle that Al qaeda is not a threat anymore. maybe we should have not went to Iraq. the only way to defeat ISIS is do it how GB did Al qaeda pretty soon they will be here. As for civil liberties I don't feel any of my civil liberties have been token away. Doing the same thing I did then as I do now.
What? You're using GWB as an example of what we should be doing? Right. My civil liberties remark was more so regarding the Patriot Act - up here we 'only' have to contend with Bill C51 if that goes through.
Ron Paul is right on this:
"The horrific attacks in Paris on Friday have, predictably, led to much over-reaction and demands that we do more of the exact things that radicalize people and make them want to attack us. The French military wasted no time bombing Syria in retaliation for the attacks, though it is not known where exactly the attackers were from. Thousands of ISIS fighters in Syria are not Syrian, but came to Syria to overthrow the Assad government from a number of foreign countries -- including from France and the US.
Ironically, the overthrow of Assad has also been the goal of both the US and France since at least 2011.
Because the US and its allies are essentially on the same side as ISIS and other groups – seeking the overthrow of Assad – many of the weapons they have sent to the more “moderate” factions also seeking Assad’s ouster have ended up in the hands of radicals. Moderate groups have joined more radical factions over and over, taking their US-provided training and weapons with them. Other moderate groups have been captured or killed, their US-provided weapons also going to the radicals. Thus the more radical factions have become better equipped and better trained, while occasionally being attacked by US or allied planes.
Does anyone not believe this is a recipe for the kind of disaster we have now seen in Paris? The French in particular have been very active in arming even the more radical groups in Syria, as they push for more political influence in the region. Why do they still refuse to believe in the concept of blowback? Is it because the explanation that, “they hate us because we are free,” makes it easier to escalate abroad and crack down at home?
It may not be popular to say this as emotions run high and calls ring out for more bombing in the Middle East, but there is another way to address the problem. There is an alternative to using more military intervention to address a problem that was caused by military intervention in the first place.
That solution is to reject the militarists and isolationists. It is to finally reject the policy of using “regime change” to further perceived US and western foreign policy goals, whether in Iraq, Libya, Syria, or elsewhere. It is to reject the foolish idea that we can ship hundreds of millions of dollars worth of weapons to “moderates” in the Middle East and expect none of them to fall into the hands of radicals.
More bombs will not solve the problems in the Middle East. But a more promising approach to the Middle East is currently under fire from the isolationists in Washington. The nuclear deal with Iran ends UN sanctions and opens that country to international trade. Just last week the presidents of France and Iran met to discuss a number of trade deals. Other countries have followed. Trade and respect for national sovereignty trumps violence, but Washington still doesn’t seem to get it. Most presidential candidates compete to thump the table loudest against any deal with Iran. They will use this attack to propagandize against approving trade with Iran even though Iran has condemned the attack and is also in the crosshairs of ISIS.
Here is the alternative: Focus on trade and friendly relations, stop shipping weapons, abandon “regime change” and other manipulations, respect national sovereignty, and maintain a strong defense at home including protecting the borders from those who may seek to do us harm.
We should abandon the failed policies of the past, before it’s too late."
