Originally posted by SherlockCrash
They symbolise this with a octopus, a intelligent creature, that can reach everywhere with its tentacles.
Octopus can't touch me. :tongue3
It hasn't yet, anyway.
DJ RANN
me, this cluster of idiocracy is still going?
Jack actually made an incredibly prescient point about religion, although it's paradoxically the inverse of this situation;
With religion (pick one), you have an unshakable divine belief that is propelled as a fact in our lives, which is literally speaking, a bunch of fairy tales amassed from a book that has had several thousand edits and no provenance as to true source material.
The completely incredulous thing about the situation we inherited from a pre-enlightenment era, is that the onus is on the people who don't believe to disprove this. Nowhere in life does this happen. It's a completely irrational system based on anti-logic and in no discipline apart from abstract arts does this occur, where the skeptics of blind belief or those based in fact and evidence are the one's trying to be taken seriously.
Now, we have a situation where we're presented with say terrible event such as 9/11 or the Paris Shootings and a bunch of fervent nutters demand that rational people admit to some far reaching and contra-evidentiary conspiracy - worse still, in fact that the more evidence you present, the more they state that it's evidence to the exact contrary. Honestly, Kafka should be the figurehead of these numptards.
These guys really do confirm the adage: a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing. They're just smart enough to understand basic complexities but the lack of any further intelligence results in a loss of real world logic and any semblance of balanced thought, empathy or insight. It nearly becomes easier to believe the conspiracy than to actually comprehend that some truly unpredictable and shocking things happen in this life.
bamski
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Originally posted by DJ RANN
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pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by SherlockCrash
No comments about the training exercises?
I appreciate that you admitted feeling a bit stupid re the “caution 911” incident (in so doing you put yourself well ahead of your peers) but you have to realise that arguing with conspiracy theorists is a colossal waste of time and faith in humanity. The simple truth is you can’t reason people out of beliefs they didn’t reason themselves into. Believing this kind of nonsense illustrates a priori that you can’t be reasoned with, because if you were a reasonable person, you wouldn’t believe these things in the first place. Eg- I bet you haven’t shifted one iota your view that Hollywood sends out cryptic clues from the NWO, despite being demonstrably wrong previously.
SherlockCrash
So I guess no then, no comments about the training exercises. Just personal attacks. I don't feel the need to defend myself though, when none of the attacks have anything to do with me at all.
Seriously guys, you should take a good look at yourselves. I doubt that will happen though.
Yeah yeah, take care.
pkcRAISTLIN
i demand that you guys take my magical thinking seriously!
Redd
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Originally posted by SherlockCrash
So I guess no then, no comments about the training exercises. Just personal attacks.
What exactly do you want us to say here? Yes it was quite a coincidence that they had trained for a similar situation just before. But let's make it clear, the article says SIMILAR, not IDENTICAL. Although it uses the word "completely alike" at one point, three other places it refers to it as almost the same and similar.
The scenario they trained for was "a mobile terror attack where one or more perpetrators have a goal of shooting as many people as possible until the police arrives and then turn on the police". It mentions no bombs and Dickface immediately gave himself up to the police.
Said scenario is a very general one and it makes sense that they would train for it. The fact that it took place just before the attacks is what it is, a coincidence. These squads run these scenarios many many times a year. The only reason this is even made an article about is because the training scenario ended 26 minutes before the bomb went off. However, using this as a "question everything" argument is retarded.
SherlockCrash
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Originally posted by Redd
What exactly do you want us to say here? Yes it was quite a coincidence that they had trained for a similar situation just before. But let's make it clear, the article says SIMILAR, not IDENTICAL. Although it uses the word "completely alike" at one point, three other places it refers to it as almost the same and similar.
The scenario they trained for was "a mobile terror attack where one or more perpetrators have a goal of shooting as many people as possible until the police arrives and then turn on the police". It mentions no bombs and Dickface immediately gave himself up to the police.
Said scenario is a very general one and it makes sense that they would train for it. The fact that it took place just before the attacks is what it is, a coincidence. These squads run these scenarios many many times a year. The only reason this is even made an article about is because the training scenario ended 26 minutes before the bomb went off. However, using this as a "question everything" argument is retarded.
I don't want you to say anything in particular. I want you to think about how likely it is that there are training exercises, that practice almost identical scenarios just before that many major terror attacks.
If it would have been on one of the occasions, It could have been an coincidence, maybe even if it would have been on two. But three, or four, that's a pattern. And I think one would have to be pretty slow to not see that.
However, it seems like you didn't notice the rest of the drills, just the one on Utøya, so you might want to take a closer look at my post.
Redd
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DJ RANN
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Originally posted by SherlockCrash
I don't want you to say anything in particular. I want you to think about how likely it is that there are training exercises, that practice almost identical scenarios just before that many major terror attacks.
If it would have been on one of the occasions, It could have been an coincidence, maybe even if it would have been on two. But three, or four, that's a pattern. And I think one would have to be pretty slow to not see that.
However, it seems like you didn't notice the rest of the drills, just the one on Utøya, so you might want to take a closer look at my post.
Dude, you've already embaressed yourself with with the bridge thing which is why I said earlier the little bit of knowledge its a dangerous thing; you'll jump to a far fetched conspiracy theory (that a terrorist attack was prophesized by a hollywood film director in 1991) rather than the obvious thing in front of you (that it's a bridge with a height warning of 9 foot 11 inches).
Same with the "practise for terrorist attacks". Growing up in london in the 80's and 90's, IRA bombs were a real and regular occurance.
So we had drills at school and on trains, in case these things that have happened, happened again.
One day we did a drill at school (under tables, evacuate), then later that night a large bomb went off less than a mile from my house and destroyed a store I used to go to.
I didn't suddenly ing go "it's a setup! they knew this was going to happen because we trained for it! The reptile shadow government planned this!".
It was a Bomb, set off by a terrorist organization and we happened to train for it.
You come up with incredibly complicated mass conspiracies involving hundreds of crisis actors, huge amounts of doctored backstories and thousands of social media accounts, millions of euros in logistics and planning, the incredibly effort in to faking CCTV footage and image etc etc etc, when really, all it took was a handful of guys with readily available weapons and an incredibly rudimentary bomb (propane tank with nails taped to it).
I wish you guys would study Occams razor. Would save the internet a bunch of bandwidth.
