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Terrorist Attack Paris Shooting (pg. 22)
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| Jon_Snow |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
He asked politely for my opinion, and I had not given one in this thread yet, so I thought it would be only fair if I wrote a post. |
Don't force us to have an online intervention for you. Just chill bra, just chill |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jon_Snow
Don't force us to have an online intervention for you. Just chill bra, just chill |
I'm straight outta chill fam! |
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| soulstar606 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
In short, saying the old German woman was jailed because she was on the cusp of finding out the Holocaust didn't happen is quite a distortion of the truth. To deny the Holocaust is akin to refusing to believe Europeans came to the Americas - she was jailed because there's enough reason to believe it did happen and bringing it up often serves causes that expose vulnerable scars in Germany. Not comparable to what happened to Manning, Assange, and Snowden at all. |
so in other words. you agree that she should be sent to prison? for asking a question and expressing her opinion on the validity of the genereally accepted narrative.:nervous:
i don think it's right. i guess thats where me and some of the people in this thread disagree
edit:| quote: | | In a way, yes, it's extremely unjust. |
oh ok. i dont think any reasonable person would say it was acceptable to imprison someone for that reason. unless they are a faschist. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by soulstar606
so in other words. you agree that she should be sent to prison. for asking a question and expressing her opinion on the validity of the genereally accepted narrative. |
What? No, I'm just explaining to you what happened, I didn't express my opnion. I wish the Germans had a better way to sort it out, but given the complexities involved, it would be quite arrogant of me as a foreigner to say "Hey, I know what you've got to do even know I know next to nothing about your legal system and the actual problems you have in everyday life!" :p
| quote: | Originally posted by soulstar606
most dfinitely unjust to imprison someone for expressin their opinion |
In a way, yes, it's extremely unjust. But, there's a reason for that and I can't think of a way to fix the problem. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| i think jailing people for being colossal wits is a grand idea. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
i think jailing people for being colossal wits is a grand idea. |
I'd have figured as much! It would make for great convos in prison:
"Why are you here?"
"Murder"
"And you?"
"Arson"
"And you?"
"Being a colossal wit" :p |
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| soulstar606 |
lol no it would be like this:
"Why are you here?"
"Murder"
"And you?"
"Arson"
"And you?"
"ASKING TOO MANY QUESTIONS"
and just to relate it back to Paris....they have this exact same law...they enforce it with such vigour..but then they DONT enforce other laws like public obstruction when all the muslims pray in the streets for hours at a time.
i dont know about you but ive taken numerous law courses...and laws are laws for a reason. (i think i observed a couple posters on GS who said they were in law school, could be wrong) but the one thing they all have in common is they are made up....by "humans"... they dont actually have any real foundation in Natural Law. Natural Law doesn't require human approval/collective standardized agreement.
| quote: | | Natural law is often contrasted with the human-made laws (positive law) of a given political community, society, or state.[3] In legal theory, the interpretation of a human-made law requires some reference to natural law. On this understanding of natural law, natural law can be invoked to criticize judicial decisions about what the law says, but not to criticize the best interpretation of the law itse |
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| planetaryplayer |
| soulstar can u start a new thread about your lizard kings and multi dimension theories ?i don't believe in them obviously but i would like to know how you came across it and why you are convinced and how it all began |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by soulstar606
lol no it would be like this:
"Why are you here?"
"Murder"
"And you?"
"Arson"
"And you?"
"ASKING TOO MANY QUESTIONS" |
The woman wasn't jailed for asking questions. As you can see, there's absolutely nothing in the German legal system that says you can incarcerate someone for asking "Did the Holocaust happen?". It was because of her (erroneous) conclusions, which she decided to stand for.
Now, can we go back to the main topic? |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by soulstar606
like i said, i'm not trying to convince anyone.
my beliefs are :eyespop:reactive:eyespop:...theyre synthetic...theyre a synthesis of observation and conclusion..
whereas other beliefs are :tongue3proactive:tongue3 and seek to create problems in the state of collective. they seek to create disorder amongst the general population whilst they strengtehn the unity and influence of their own exclusive. |
hahahaha. it doesn't take long before sophists 'out' themselves by posting incoherent twaddle like this ^^. |
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| soulstar606 |
http://religionandpolitics.org/2015...slim-community/
it seems completely irrational...that you have the biggest population of islamists in your country..out of all countries...but at the same time...
"France has pursued an “anti-Islamist” foreign policy for at least 25 years."
so you have a massive group (basically a small province) of distinct ethno-cultrual-religous people in your country...and you attack their places of ethnic origin as your main foreign policy for the past 25 years
this doesnt make any sense. if you want a cohesive society of FRENCH...people...as in people who are assimilated into french society
it does make sense though if you are trying to create chaos and segregation
| quote: | | R&P: France has been the repeated target of violence this year. Why France? And how do you think the nation can better combat radicalization? JL: France is central to this issue because it has the largest Muslim minority in Western Europe and is a regional bellwether for the ups and downs of minority Islam. Why have more than 1,850 French citizens defected to the “Islamic State”—nearly half of the Europeans estimated to be in the region? Part of this is France has pursued an “anti-Islamist” foreign policy for at least 25 years. Paris supported the generals against the Islamists in 1990s Algeria, and became the target of GIA bombs in 1995 and 1996 at the height of the Algerian civil war. That was, by the way, at a time when headscarves were still permitted in French schools —a right exercised by fewer than 2,000 girls annually. The last decade of French politics burnished the country’s anti-Islamist credentials—and sealed its place of prominence in the sights of contemporary terrorist movements. This began with the enthusiastic participation in war against the Taliban, continued with the legislation prohibiting headscarves in public schools in 2004 and niqabs in public spaces in 2011, and the sanctuary given to Charlie Hebdo. All of this has been interpreted and framed by Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb and similar groups to be a continuation of the country’s war on Islam. With President Hollande’s intervention in Mali two years ago and this year’s bombardment of ISIS targets in retaliation for the January attacks, the government has made countless enemies in the international terrorist scene. - See more at: http://religionandpolitics.org/2015...h.6DXzd5og.dpuf |
do you buy this?
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4...ce-islamization
http://www.france24.com/en/20150605...esearch-opinion
| quote: | | ISIS attracts and recruits vulnerable individuals at the margins of society, including many recent converts to Islam. To better combat radicalization, the government will need to enhance and multiply the efforts that it began after January’s attacks on Charlie Hebdo and the kosher supermarket. On the one hand, there is an understandable institutional void—Muslims “settled” in mainland France only 30 or 40 years ago. But French authorities have been trying for 20 years, since the first Gulf War, to address areas like the lack of prayer spaces, of religious education, and of France-based imams and theologians—a vacuum that has left some of these people vulnerable to the cult-like attraction towards ISIS and its worldview. A lot of progress has been made—the number of Muslim places of worship doubled since 2001, and there are now religious chaplains in some public institutions like the armed forces. - See more at: http://religionandpolitics.org/2015...h.6DXzd5og.dpuf |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| Can you just reciprocate his approach to you and bang him on Ignore so I don't have to see his gibberish clogging every thread in your quotes? He/she has never posted a single thing worth reading and is clearly a burger flipper who has hit the blotter one too many times. |
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