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Can alcohol turn otherwise nice people into supercharged assh0les?
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Vector A
It seems like opinions are pretty divided on this. I tend to lean toward alcohol revealing or intensifying parts of people's personality that were already there. But I have heard people swear by the idea that Demon Rum can get into some otherwise decent people and turn them into ogres.

What say you?
Silky Johnson
I think it's a bit of both. And it also depends on the type of alcohol.


The bottom line is, alcohol impairs judgment and decision making. Even a tightly wound never-do-wrong might come undone with the right amount of Jack Daniels.
Alex
I think we can all agree it turns women into hoes and turns men into bois.
Silky Johnson
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Originally posted by Alex
I think we can all agree it turns women into hoes and turns men into bois.





LOL
OrangestO
22 days without alcohol for me today :)

And yes, alcohol can turn someone into a supercharged :o
SYSTEM-J
You will never completely lose control unless part of you wants to.
Silky Johnson
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
You will never completely lose control unless part of you wants to.




Physiologically impossible. You're basically saying a person can somehow quarantine parts of their brain from the effects of alcohol.
SYSTEM-J
No I'm not. I'm utilising a specific definition of "losing control", one salient to the question. You can drink until you vomit, fall over and pass out, and that is certainly "loss of control" in a more literal sense. But psychologically losing control, to the point where a person can claim they are not responsible for their behaviour... I don't believe in it. These people willingly let themselves go, even if it's a subconscious decision.
Silky Johnson
I get what you're saying, but it still equates to some part of you psychologically being immune to the effects of booze. That's the exact nature of alcohol clouding judgment - even the part of you that has the tightest grip is gonna get drunk.

I don't believe in it as an excuse either, but it's a fact.
Alex
For the people older than 16-18 that get full on trashed in public, what's the attraction?

Not being judgmental, but after I was legally allowed to drink I kind of lost the taste for getting completely tanked.

Still enjoy booze from time to time though, but mostly for the taste vs using it as a means to an end.

Jon_Snow
IPAs turn me into a conceited beer bitch, I'm more down to earth with lagers, the verdict is still out on porters.
SYSTEM-J
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Originally posted by Silky Johnson
I get what you're saying, but it still equates to some part of you psychologically being immune to the effects of booze.


There's loads of research out there suggesting that much of "drunkenness" is psycho-somatic. There are studies showing people act drunk when they think they're drinking alcohol even if they're not, that people act more drunk around other drunken people, that many of the regrettable decisions people make when drunk are things they want to do anyway, and alcohol is used as an excuse. There's the way people can suddenly and sharply sober up if confronted with a shocking situation or if they suddenly need to act sober.

The thing is, 95% of people don't turn into someone completely different when they're drunk. Look at almost anyone and their drunken behaviour can be completely attributed to:

Personality + Lowered Inhibition + Impaired Judgement + Social Situation

And yet we all know someone who's that person. Someone who's a complete ing nightmare when drunk. Is there any evidence that alcohol has a fundamentally different effect on their brain, that it can conjure up behaviour that simply isn't there otherwise? If there is evidence I'd be fascinated to read it, but right now I don't believe in this idea. I believe there's an inner surrender that these people make, often gleefully, a will to lose control.
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