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The illegal war is on :: denounce America’s imperialism ! (pg. 22)
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TranceGeek
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Originally posted by oceanlab
TranceGeek: all of your questions and delusions have been covered in the previous pages.


just like everyone else outside of US is deluded too, right?
oceanlab
quote:
Originally posted by TranceGeek
just like everyone else outside of US is deluded too, right?


no, not right, i hope you don't actually think that.

and maybe if you took the time to read everything that has been said here, maybe you wouldn't think that everyone that supports the war watches cnn and loves bush.
TranceGeek
quote:
Originally posted by oceanlab
no, not right, i hope you don't actually think that.


i don't, you do though...

quote:
and maybe if you took the time to read everything that has been said here, maybe you wouldn't think that everyone that supports the war watches cnn and loves bush.


see if that were true, you wouldn't be so keen on supporting this agression...
DJ El Kay Dee
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Originally posted by Ray_Finkle
Sorry rabbitjoker, what you just said makes too much sense to be in this thread. Also, LKD, you think that because I have no experiance living in the middle east makes me automatically wrong and you concede to the exact same points that I make when other people ask you. Is it really hard to type something into google and find out some information on it.

Honestly LKD, you have contributed nothing of relevence to this thread. Am I and others just supposed to take your word for it that something happened? Of course not. You were the one that initiated all the derogatory remarks in this thread and sent it off course. As I was looking back a couple of pages, I even see that you start calling oceanlab a "racist" when what he said had clearly nothing to do with him being racist. I don't know what else I can do here. I am obviously not here to try and tell you that your opinions are wrong, I as well as others that are on this side of the debate are merely trying to explain our point and we are doing that with quotes. I would love for you to justify your side. I would really love it, but you aren't giving any proof. Would you write a formal english essay on Shakespeare without referencing the text? No, you would get burned for it. That's what you are doing. The only one being juvenile here is you and not only is it hurting your credibility, but it is also hurting your side's ability to get its message out. You can call me a sperm or whatever all you like but the fact of the matter remains, HOW WOULD YOU GO ABOUT GETTING SADDAM OUT OF POWER. ANSWER THIS SIMPLE QUESTION.



First of all...please tell me when the did u give a damn about people living in countries miles away which dont affect u?

i ask this question because the supposed reason for this war is now to "free the iraqi people"

if sanctions werent thrown on Iraq, they would e ina far better condition...

since u find it so hard to think for urself and actually look deep into any information written, i looked for info to give u...u will spend a minimum of 4 ohurs going thru everything on this site.

if u are not convinced 24 hours from now that the war is wrong, it means u didnt read it. if u dont read it, it just proves my point that ur a stubborn, barbaric prick who simply assumes things because someone tells u.

heres the site: http://electroniciraq.net

heres some more readings by legit writers with a bibliography included:
1. http://merip.org/iraq_backgrounder_...ound2_merip.pdf

2. http://electroniciraq.net/uploads/paxchristi-nl.pdf (about the humanitarian effects of war on iraq)read page 3 carefully

Quote from second article:
There can be no doubt that the political goals of the US extend further than resolution 1441. A war in Iraq would serve two American goals. A regime change would mean a success for, and thus a strong underpinning of, Bush’s pre-emptive-strike doctrine. In the second place, an Iraq operating under an American aegis can take over Saudi Arabia’s role as determining factor in world oil prices, which would reduce Saudi Arabia’s influence on American policy in the Middle East, in particular with regard to Israel.

im not even gonna bother replying to any of ur redundant remarks anymore cos ur not going to change and im not on a mission to change ur oversaturated head
DJLocoMoco
Read this article in the TorontoStar
http://www.torontostar.ca/NASApp/cs...ol=968793972154
and look at the picture of the severly burned child
and then tell me how you can justify this war you SICK S!
This is what you call Liberation, this is what you call freedom?
DigiNut


Crap I just noticed this...
"Electronic Iraq is a news portal on the US-Iraq crisis published by veteran antiwar campaigners Voices in the Wilderness and respected Middle East supplementary news publishers, the Electronic Intifada."

LKD, what the are you thinking posting a site published by the Electronic Intifada? I'm not even going to consider reading this garbage.
USMC_Greg
quote:
Originally posted by DJLocoMoco
Read this article in the TorontoStar
http://www.torontostar.ca/NASApp/cs...ol=968793972154
and look at the picture of the severly burned child
and then tell me how you can justify this war you SICK S!
This is what you call Liberation, this is what you call freedom?



Iraq brought this war on themselves. It's not America that is the enemy here, it's tyrants like Sadam.

Furthermore, the life of a child (however tragic) is not worth the lives of thousands in future and past terrorist attacks.
Time2Burn
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Originally posted by USMC_Greg
Iraq brought this war on themselves. It's not America that is the enemy here, it's tyrants like Sadam.

Furthermore, the life of a child (however tragic) is not worth the lives of thousands in future and past terrorist attacks.


You imply that after the US "liberates" Iraq there will be no terrorist attacks.

This excuse for the loss of innocent lives is not valid.
DJ El Kay Dee
got this in an email...


new American national anthem which Bush might try to impose:
(sing to the tune of "if ur happy and u know it")

If You're Happy And You Know It - Bomb Iraq
If you cannot find Osama, bomb Iraq.
If the terrorists are frisky,
Pakistan is looking shifty,
North Korea is too risky,
Bomb Iraq.

If we have no allies with us, bomb Iraq.
If we think that someone's dissed us, bomb Iraq.
So to h*ll with the inspections,
Let's look tough for the elections,
Close your mind and take directions,
Bomb Iraq.

It's pre-emptive non-aggression, bomb Iraq.
To prevent this mass destruction, bomb Iraq.
They've got weapons we can't see,
And that's all the proof we need,
If they're not there, they must be,
Bomb Iraq.

If you never were elected, bomb Iraq.
If your mood is quite dejected, bomb Iraq.
If you think Saddam's gone mad,
With the weapons that he had,
And he tried to kill your dad,
Bomb Iraq.

If corporate fraud is growin', bomb Iraq.
If your ties to it are showin', bomb Iraq.
If your politics are sleazy,
And hiding that ain't easy,
And your manhood's getting queasy,
Bomb Iraq.

Fall in line and follow orders, bomb Iraq.
For our might knows not our borders, bomb Iraq.
Disagree? We'll call it treason,
Let's make war not love this season,
Even if we have no reason,
Bomb Iraq
DJ El Kay Dee
quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Crap I just noticed this...
"Electronic Iraq is a news portal on the US-Iraq crisis published by veteran antiwar campaigners Voices in the Wilderness and respected Middle East supplementary news publishers, the Electronic Intifada."

LKD, what the are you thinking posting a site published by the Electronic Intifada? I'm not even going to consider reading this garbage.


hmm not even gonna consider huh/??

DigiNut
quote:
Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee
hmm not even gonna consider huh/??


Consider reading something by the Electronic Intifada? Do you have any idea who they are? Frankly, I'm a little insulted that you'd even mention their name on a public forum. You better watch it dude, the US/Iraq war is one thing and I plan to stay the hell out of these arguments (I repeat, I have not stated and will not state any personal opinion about the war itself), but anything related to intifada (or its electronic political equivalent) is one piece of territory you DO NOT want to be heading down into...

Please, for the sake of myself and my ancestry and possibly that of several other TA's, do not mention another word in public about this "organization." You cannot even imagine how disgusted I was to see those words at the top of that website.
USMC_Greg
quote:
Originally posted by Time2Burn
You imply that after the US "liberates" Iraq there will be no terrorist attacks.

This excuse for the loss of innocent lives is not valid.



your contradiction is not valid
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