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The illegal war is on :: denounce America’s imperialism ! (pg. 23)
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USMC_Greg
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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
so I guess you are a damn terrorist too by supporting Bush!!
and yes be scared VERY scared,U thought Sep 11 was bad huh?future doesnt look good for the Americans,they just got themselves more enemy and more people will hate them now,so be ready for more terrorist attacks!!ooh and wait till the casualities start to rise,in this war.
and yes I will blow myself up if it means to save my country ,are u scared??gooooooooo:)


Getting scared means the terrorists would win. Americans have an opportunity to neutralize a threat, and they jumped on it. Lets be honest here, if Bush didn't do anything he'd be getting even more flack.

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and you said Bush is protecting the American intrest intrest,so then the world,and let them attack any counties they want,just to protect their intrest!!:whip: :whip: god I HATE Americans.


You are finally getting it now. If I was in Bush's position I would do anything possible to secure the lives whom I represent.


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and you are saying that the idiot Bush is a good leader because he is listening to his own people??mmmm then why isnt he doing something about their own problems??how about Kyoto??ooh wait thats not in their intrest.:mad:


In case you missed it, the U.S. was attacked by terrorists on September 11th 2001. If you think that terrorism isn't "their own problem" then you are an idiot.

Kyoto? That's not an American problem. That's a world problem.




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and you said this war has nothing to do with islam maybe,but try to explain this to people in Iraq or other counties who got ed by the American Gov.


WTF? The Americans have ed many other countries that are not islamic.


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and I wont stop praying,because the U.S should get the out of middle east,they ruining the region.


Seems like the region did a pretty good job of that on their own.


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and you probably gonna tell me the Iraqi people are waiting for the Americans in Baghdad to celebrate their freedom right?


The Iraqies have been brainwashed for the last 30 years. Ten years down the road I think the Iraqi people will be content with a Saddam-less state.


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every Iraqi person I talk to told me that having Americans in their country is their worst nightmare.


meh


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so you can call me whatever the hell you want,but Iam not afraid to speak my mind,and you think I am a terrorist then you better watch out:disbelief


If you do any terrorist act I hope you get sent to jail and made to be someone's bitch for the rest of your life. And isn't killing yourself against Islam? Ohhhhhhhh you're so going to hell.
bomberMAN
I usually get involved in subjects like this. And I could get involved but there is no point in arguing cuz you can't change an ignorant s mind!

All I have to say is "Terrorist Win"
Every played the game? CS haha...
oceanlab
LONDON TIMES: "WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION FOUND"

apparently about 90 miles south of Baghdad, lets defend Saddam some more...cmon LKD, cmon you fuking peace pussies...defend a mass murderer!!!
Ray_Finkle
Oceanlab, calm down with the insults. It doesn't help anyone's arguement. Anyways....Apparantly some scottish troops found a lot of illegal weapons....THAT CAME FROM RUSSIA (one of the countries threatening a veto in the UNSC)

http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/arc...103-0-47-6.html

comments? The Herald is usually a good source but I still would like to see some more sites pick up on this. Also....
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast...lant/index.html

suspected chemical plant found. That and the Iraqi's violating every single word of the Geneva Convention sure doesn't win them any public support other than the ignorant anti-americans
DJLocoMoco
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Originally posted by oceanlab
LONDON TIMES: "WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION FOUND"

apparently about 90 miles south of Baghdad, lets defend Saddam some more...cmon LKD, cmon you fuking peace pussies...defend a mass murderer!!!


Correct me if I'm wrong, but in the 18 pages of this thread I did not see one person "defend" Saddam. We're all in agreement that Saddam needs to be removed from power, the debate lies in whether or not we support the means by which this is being done.

As for the WMD they haven't confirmed anything yet, they suspect the building may have been used as a chemical plant.
Ray_Finkle
I think that Hardcore_Trancer dude was. He was saying stuff about coming over to the states and killing innocent americans or something. I don't think he counts though because I'm sure he was a gimmick.

Anyways, what are everyone's views on the TV footage of the POWs? I believe that it violates the Geneva convention to show footage or something like that. Looks like the Iraqi's are throwing that accord right our the window...
Ray_Finkle
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Originally posted by DigiNut
Electronic Intifada stuff


What's the deal with this group? I'm curious. Are they a bunch of exremist radicals?
DJ El Kay Dee
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Originally posted by Ray_Finkle
Anyways, what are everyone's views on the TV footage of the POWs? I believe that it violates the Geneva convention to show footage or something like that. Looks like the Iraqi's are throwing that accord right our the window...


i dont see anything wrong because they were showing POWs from the Iraqi side being pressed face in the sand and cuffed etc. and sitting in lines ...so its even on both sides....moreover the Iraqi POWs surrendered.

its a huge gray area there because if US feels that Iraq should comply with the Geneva convention, it should be mutual.


as for oceanlab....the only source that says the lab was found is only the london times. it isnt mentioned even on reuters. could be true, could be false.

but the point of our anti war idea is not because we support terrorism, but we support innocent until proven guilty.

now if it was so easy for them to find a lab, wouldnt the inspectors have found it too??

its possible that its a lab but could be a lab for other means and not for weapons.
DigiNut
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Originally posted by Ray_Finkle
What's the deal with this group? I'm curious. Are they a bunch of exremist radicals?


I call them Spin Doctors. They come up with "facts" but don't bother to quote any sources... I think on the rare occasions when I've actually found a reference, I've checked that reference and found that they did some interesting "paraphrasing" or just omitted very important details.

Now I will say no more about them, or anything else in this thread; I did not mean to get involved at all, just got a little apprehensive when I heard this group mentioned.
DJ El Kay Dee
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Originally posted by Ray_Finkle
What's the deal with this group? I'm curious. Are they a bunch of exremist radicals?

they are basically activists against america and against israel..


however the reason why i posted it is beacuse:
1. its the opposite biased side (which should be compared with the local news to find the mid point for that fraction of truth)
2. because there were a few articles written by non arabs which are extremely unbiased in it and prove my point that both sids are equally wrong yet the war is not the answer

Ray_Finkle
The iraqi troops have been "surrenduring" only to ambush the US troops when they come in and try to take them as POWs as stated under the Geneva convention.

also, does this look like the humanitarian way of dealing with POWs?
http://cm.emptyspaces.net/war/aljaz...jazeera0032.jpg
http://cm.emptyspaces.net/war/aljaz...jazeera0029.jpg

I would hate to be the american troops right now.

Although you do bring up an interesting point. Where the americans violating the geneva convention when they showed the iraqi POWs. I'm not sure. I will have to read the geneva convention before i make any more accusations on either side
DJ El Kay Dee
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Originally posted by Ray_Finkle
The iraqi troops have been "surrenduring" only to ambush the US troops when they come in and try to take them as POWs as stated under the Geneva convention.

also, does this look like the humanitarian way of dealing with POWs?
http://cm.emptyspaces.net/war/aljaz...jazeera0032.jpg
http://cm.emptyspaces.net/war/aljaz...jazeera0029.jpg

I would hate to be the american troops right now.



inn the first picture, the soldier has been injured in combat, nothin wrong with that..its expected

as for the second picture, i remember dead bodies of taliban being shown during the taliban vs US war. and compare the dead body reality to the 24/7 visual coverage u watch on all the news channels of a city with civilians still living in it being bombed
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