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Paul Van Dyk's Downfall
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| speedracer_mec |
FIrst i must say...paul van dyk is a mixing genious. Love da guy's ability to get a crowd off its feet and into a frenzy. The guy never has failed to make the crowd dance. However he has always been known to be an arrogrant dude. Now lets look at his recent productions vs his old. neone miss columbia? avenue? remix of tilt-rendevous? tell me why? WHo misses the paul van dyk who put effort into his productions?
not the paul van dyk of today who just meshs rehashs of old re-edits with the same hat/kick
Quite frankly lets analyze the guy's mixes...sure he has always made the crowd move however his own productions in his mixes have gone to the sewer
1999 traklists
01. Paul van Dyk - Another Way (Original Mix)
02. Blank & Jones - Cream (Paul van Dyk Remix)
03. Paul van Dyk - For An Angel (E-Werk Club Mix)
04. Prototype - Soundpiercing (Omni Mix)
05. Slick Mick - Middle
06. Southside Spinners - Luvstruck (Timo Maas Remix)
07. 2 Digital - Take My Soul
08. Jonesey - Independance (Stadium Remix)
09. ID
10. Atlantis vs. Avatar - Fiji (Original Mix)
11. Tr Jr. - Rock With Me (Lange Remix)
12. Binary Finary - 1998 (Paul van Dyk Remix)
13. Gouryella - Gouryella
14. Paul van Dyk - Another Way
01. Innersphere - Out Of Body
02. Depeche Mode - No Good (BT Mix)
03. E-N feat. Ceevox - That Sound (Edge Factor Dub)
04. L.S.G. - Netherworld (Vinyl Cut)
05. Sandman - Coimbra (Digital Blonde's Floor Mix)
06. Blue Amazon - No Other Love (Shango's Acidic Zulu Remix)
07. Angelo - Funkdamental
08. Isha-D - Stay (Tonight) (Andy Ling's Local Dub)
09. Olive - You're Not Alone (Oakenfold & Osborne 12" Remix)
10. Junior Camp - Listen To The Rhythm
11. Sian - Stronger Together (Andy Ling's Aryan Dub)
12. Tilt - My Spirit (Pink Bomb Remix)
13. Millenium - Radio Freedom (Interference Mix)
14. Boston Bruins - Enuff
15. BT - Flaming June (BT & PvD Mix)
16. Paul van Dyk - Forbidden Fruit (BT & PvD's Food Of Love Mix)
17. The Freak & Mac Zimms - Submission
18. Yello - On Track (Doug Laurent's First Journey Dub)
19. Paul van Dyk - Words
01. DJ Dan - Needle Damage
02. Hardy Heller Pres. I.C.E. - Ice 794 (Thanks To Berlin Dub)
03. Z2 - I Want You
04. Blank & Jones - Cream (Paul van Dyk Remix)
05. Paul van Dyk - For An Angel (E-Werk Club mix)
06. Prototype - Soundpiercing (Omni Mix)
07. Slick Mick - Middle
08. Southside Spinners - Luvstruck
09. 2 Digital - Take My Soul
10. Gouryella - Gouryella
11. 2 Digital - Because Of My Dreams
12. Paul van Dyk - Tell Me Why [The Riddle] (Original Mix)
13. Floorplay - One More Time
01. Conductor & Cowboy - Feeling This Way (Solarstone Dub)
02. Mauro Picotto - Pegasus (Tea Mix)
03. En Motion - Truth (Pulser Remix)
04. DJ Remy - Pumped Up
05. John Rees Vs. Helios - Beta Blocker (JR Trance Mix)
06. Vincent De Moor - No Hesitation
07. Paul Van Dyk - Tell Me Why [The Riddle] (Vandit Mix)
08. DJ Hitch Hiker Pres. Lunatic Asylum - Cabal [Energy Flow] (Hitch Hiker and Dumonts Gam Jabar Mix)
09. The Infernal Machine - Realistic
10. Multiplicity - Multiply (Main Mix) (with Moloko - 'The Time Is Now' acapella)
11. Terpischord - The Bells
12. Amber - Sexual (Deep Dish Cheez Whiz Mix)
13. Maria Nayler - Angry Skies (Quivver Dub)
14. Savannah - Spirit (Sierra Nevada Mix)
15. Bill Hamel - Perspectives Part 2 (Expansion Mix)
16. Chrome - Our Manifest (Vinyl Club Mix)
17. Thomas P. Heckmann & Mark Romboy - Ultra Vixens
18. Face - The Face
19. Paul Van Dyk - Columbia (Original Mix)
20. Paul Van Dyk - We're Alive (Original Mix)
21. Rapid Eye - Never Going Back (Iberia Mix)
22. Paul Van Dyk - Out There & Back
23. Pee Wee Ferris - Genesis
24. Darude - Sandstorm
25. Pro-Lectric - One
26. Condor II - You Can [Kiss My ...] (Light Of Day Mix)
27. Jamnesia - My Memory Is Back
TODAY 2004
01. TDR - Plique
02. Above and Beyond - No One on Earth (Gabriel and Dresden Dub)
03. Dave Robertson - For Her
04. Luke Chable & Danny Bonnici - Ride (Have A Break Mix)
05. Mojado Ft Mr Sam - Naranja (Dimitri Andreas Vision Mix)
06. M.I.D.O.R. & Six4Eight - No Mans Land
07. 4 Strings - Summer Sun (Remix)
08. Phil Green - Tribal Trance
09. ID
10. Fred Baker presents Waterplanet - Inrospection (John Askew Remix)
Corderoy Sweetest Dreams (Ferry Corsten Mix) (PVD Rework)
The Freak Rising Angel (Club Mix)
Tiesto feat BT Loves Comes Again (Mark Norman Mix)
Mike Robbins Are You A Freak (Marcel Woods Techtrance Mix?) 2nd time
Oceanlab Satellite (Alx Oddens Flipside Vocal Mix) 2nd time
St. John vs. Locust Mind Circles (Original Mix)
Agnelli and Nelson Holding Onto Nothing (PvD Edit)
Kay D. Smith And Marc Tall Passive Resistance (Hoipolloi Mix)
Paul van Dyk Thats Life (Club Mix)
Paul van Dyk Buenaventura (PvD Mix)
Paul van Dyk Time of Our Lives (UK Club Mix)
Goldencan Sunrise (Pulser 6am Vocal Mix)
Endre Kallocain (Original/ PvD Rework)
Modulation Spiris (Cosmicmans Mix)
Paul van Dyk Crush (Vandit Dub)
Marco V I Feel You (PvD Rework)
Koglin and Dewar Pushed On (Stephen J. Kroos Mix)
Paul van Dyk Another Way (Club Mix)
Sean Tyas Remember
something with vocals: House music all night long...
Joey Beltram Energy Flash
Mark Noman Phantom Manor
Filo And Peri Juicy 2004
His productions from the best yrs will never be surpassed by his lackluster efforts of today.
Honestly...tunes such as crush and buena aventura seem like they were rushed and quikly put together.
in my opinion today paul van dyk is nothing but just another tiesto....riding the wave of past achievements.
with the surplus of dj's in the scene maybe some should just stick to production....because obviously someone needs to look at the past and remember dat today's garbage aint gonna lead him no where but straight to the gutter.....with such artists as james holden and gabriel and dresden and leama and mooor perfecting out tunes and bootlegs
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| Tranc3 |
IMO some of his best last work was around the period of his remix of I Feel You...shame it isn't being released.
Yeah I miss the old PvD, just as I miss the old Tiesto and the old Ferry, but people change, musical tastes evolve, and...well...the glory days of old won't be recreated, ever again. It's sad, but oh well - what can be done about it> |
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| Clyde77 |
| its not about the year the tune was done, if the tune is good, its good. the year does not mean anything to the production. |
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| speedracer_mec |
Paul Van Dyk -Words For Love (Original Mix)> all his recent
dat tune is pure ownage.....why cant his art today be this calculated and thought out?
*sigh*
im done ranting |
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| Cobalt |
I agree. I listen to Paul's sets from 1998 or so and his productions stand out as the highlights of the set, artistically beyond the rest of the material and well ahead of its time. How amazing his singles sounded then compared to other tracklist selections still amazes me.
But today his productions just sort of sit as regular fodder beside the rest. They are hopelessly stuck in the mold of the sound that made him famous, and have even declined from that level. Whether this is a mainstream marketing tactic or genuine artistic bankruptcy, I do not know. I suspect it's the former, though; people don't simply lose talent like that, and I believe Paul still has such ability in him.
I'm holding out until Mayday. If he fu*ks up Mayday, it will be a real blow to my great respect for the guy. He has the material and ability to make it a career defining moment once again. The question is whether he will. |
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| speedracer_mec |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clyde77
its not about the year of the date the tune was done, if the tune is good, its good. the year does not mean anything to the production. |
THE ISSUE here is time
as time passes it seems like he puts less and less effort
compare words for love with all his recent ??
omg dat tune made me go into a diff state of mind
THE HIGHLIGHT of tranceport by oakenfold was words for love...
the sleeper hit of the album in my opinion.
i remember i even cried to that tune's perfection and sheer emotion behind it.
TOday i listen to paul van dyk-buena aventura and i can only cry to the effort put in it |
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| Sand Leaper |
Here we go again.
| quote: | Originally posted by speedracer_mec
However he has always been known to be an arrogrant dude.
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And that is relevant to this thread how?
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Now lets
look at his recent productions vs his old.
neone miss columbia? avenue? remix of tilt-rendevous? tell me why? WHo misses the paul van dyk who put effort into his productions?
not the paul van dyk of today who just meshs rehashs of old re-edits with the same hat/kick
Quite frankly lets analyze the guy's mixes...sure he has always made the crowd move however his own productions in his mixes have gone to the sewer[...]
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Valid point. PvD is having a downperiod at the moment, especially productionwise(which is why I don't bother with his productions much nowadays), but I always enjoy his sets, so I will keep seeing him when I have the chance, and I look forward to the day when he stops his pop flirt and goes back to the style he had back in the golden days. But what do you mean by "his own productions in his mixes"? :conf:
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Honestly...tunes such as crush and buena aventura seem like they were rushed and quikly put together.
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Not really. If it hadn't been for Crush's awful saw riff and Buenaventuras rather dull melody, I'd say they were both quite good tunes. I also liked Time Of Our Lives, but I guess the vocals are what turns most people off.
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in my opinion today paul van dyk is nothing but just another tiesto....riding the wave of past achievements.
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I beg to differ. PvD is nowhere near the half-assed popstar attitude that Tiesto is showing off in his sets and in general nowadays. I'll admit that Tiesto has the edge on Paul productionwise though. However, that's mainly due to the fact that he has had loads of help from the likes of Geert Huinink and Sean Deason.
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with the surplus of dj's in the scene maybe some should just stick to production....because obviously someone needs to look at the past and remember dat today's garbage aint gonna lead him no where but straight to the gutter.....with such artists as james holden and gabriel and dresden and leama and mooor perfecting out tunes and bootlegs
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You're obviously just another trance turned prog head, so why bother with PvD at all? And do you realize how ironic it is that you've placed G&D in here as an example of productions not sounding the same and going into the gutter? |
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| speedracer_mec |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sand Leaper
Here we go again.
You're obviously just another trance turned prog head, so why bother with PvD at all? And do you realize how ironic it is that you've placed G&D in here as an example of productions not sounding the same and going into the gutter? |
actually im not.
Im listening to plastic angel-afterglow rite now.
amazing tune to say the least. check it out |
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| tc-fan |
| Imo PVD's production aint as good as 1998-1999 stuff....he has lost it |
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| Sand Leaper |
| quote: | Originally posted by speedracer_mec
actually im not.
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Hmm your sig's recent contents gave me another impression, but fair enuff. |
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| Dmatrox |
| i loved the choons from 'out there and back'. After that album, i didnt like TPOD nor Reflections |
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| jp |
I wouldn't consider playing at Innercity, Sensation, Ultra, Mysteryland, Nature One, Mayday & Central Park being a downfall...
Some of them are the best parties the world has to offer :o |
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