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Pentagon hit by a missile? (pg. 9)
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| LazFX |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trancer-X
I don't want to speculate on something which I haven't fully researched.
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Ah HA!!!!!
then why even post.....
| quote: | Originally posted by Trancer-X
just know that it's kind of odd that all of the planes were only carrying about 1/4 of their normal passenger load.
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before 911 it was very common to fly across the nation in a 1/4 loaded plane.... especially american airlines... :rolleyes: guess you never did research on that as well. :rolleyes: |
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| Fir3start3r |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shakka
Like OMG! The moon is made of cheese! Google says so--I saw it with my own eyes on the Internet! IT MUST BE TRUE!!! Zoom all the way in, YOU CAN SEE IT FOR YOURSELF! The Internets rulez! :cool: :wtf:
http://moon.google.com/ |
Holy e!
It's true!1!!! :eyes: |
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| LazFX |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Holy e!
It's true!1!!! :eyes: |
my faith in science has just been shaken to the core......... :eek: :D |
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| Trancer-X |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sunsnail
Now, why would the lawn be cleaner if a missle hit the pentagon, rather than a plane... |
Think about it.
The debris from a 60 ton (200,000+ lbs.) plane with a huge wingspan (approx 125' across), a huge tail section (about 45' tall), seats, luggage, huge turbine engines (40,000+ lbs each), landing gear, hydraulics, fuselage, etc.
vs.
a small missile or a perhaps something like a 23,000lb Global Hawk.
If it was a plane, where's all of the debris? Planes don't just vaporize into thin air.
Oh, and the small engine parts that were recovered? They weren't from a 757.
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| Shakka |
| So if American Airlines has flight control info that shows one of their birds followed a path into the Pentagon and was never heard from again...WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL OF THE PEOPLE ON THE PLANE? Can you at least try to provide some sort of rational answer to that question? Until then basing your theory on a lack of evidence doesn't prove jack . There's a very good paper trail that shows several dozen people bought plane tickets and boarded an airplane that morning. Were they abducted by aliens? When will they be coming home? Will they bring ET with them? I've missed that little guy since the 80s. |
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| Trancer-X |
| quote: | Originally posted by LazFX
Ah HA!!!!!
then why even post.....
before 911 it was very common to fly across the nation in a 1/4 loaded plane.... especially american airlines... :rolleyes: guess you never did research on that as well. :rolleyes: |
Can you reference that or should I just take your word for it? Post a link, please ;) |
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| Shakka |
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ppfinal.html
http://www.popularmechanics.com/tec...842.html?page=6
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1
| quote: | | FACT: Blast expert Allyn E. Kilsheimer was the first structural engineer to arrive at the Pentagon after the crash and helped coordinate the emergency response. "It was absolutely a plane, and I'll tell you why," says Kilsheimer, CEO of KCE Structural Engineers PC, Washington, D.C. "I saw the marks of the plane wing on the face of the building. I picked up parts of the plane with the airline markings on them. I held in my hand the tail section of the plane, and I found the black box." Kilsheimer's eyewitness account is backed up by photos of plane wreckage inside and outside the building. Kilsheimer adds: "I held parts of uniforms from crew members in my hands, including body parts. Okay?" |
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| Magnetonium |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sunsnail
Now, why would the lawn be cleaner if a missle hit the pentagon, rather than a plane... |
Thats because it was a SMALL object that penetrated the building. Missiles dont leave much of debris because thats what the point of the missile is - as much of explosive material as possible, as little of everything else. Look at any Boeing 747 crashes, impacts - you'd always distinguish large plane parts i.e.
| quote: | Originally posted by Trancer-X
"The debris from a 60 ton (200,000+ lbs.) plane with a huge wingspan (approx 125' across), a huge tail section (about 45' tall), seats, luggage, huge turbine engines (40,000+ lbs each), landing gear, hydraulics, fuselage, etc." |
Seriously, the denial never ends. Even the professionals who STUDIED the released black box data have concluded that the information given by the government is wrong.
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FACT: Blast expert Allyn E. Kilsheimer was the first structural engineer to arrive at the Pentagon after the crash and helped coordinate the emergency response. "It was absolutely a plane, and I'll tell you why," says Kilsheimer, CEO of KCE Structural Engineers PC, Washington, D.C. "I saw the marks of the plane wing on the face of the building. I picked up parts of the plane with the airline markings on them. I held in my hand the tail section of the plane, and I found the black box." Kilsheimer's eyewitness account is backed up by photos of plane wreckage inside and outside the building. Kilsheimer adds: "I held parts of uniforms from crew members in my hands, including body parts. Okay?" |
The general who said this is lying. He is representing these forces that are hiding the truth. He is not reliable source anyhow. There is no evidence to back up what he is saying. Any Pentagon official will back him up anyway, how much of truth is that anyway, besides all the lies to come out of Pentagon as it is? |
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| culorut |
The deniers just got owned, hard. |
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| Trancer-X |
Yeah, Hearst publishing did a pretty good job adhering to the governments official conspiracy theory. lol
We probably would have gotten a more honest story if it had been investigated and published by Hustler magazine.
"Truth is the first casualty of war."
- William Randolph Hearst
http://www.hoovers.com/hearst/--ID_...factsheet.xhtml |
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| Shakka |
Yet still nobody wants to even attempt to answer any of my questions. Just repeat the story and continue to throw more bull on the fire. But so-and-so said it in an official, spiffy looking youtube video. And he said it in an angry voice no less! By jove it must be true!
Stubblebine sounds like a winner to me! He said what I wanted to hear so he must be right, despite being a controversial figure.
| quote: | | Stubblebine and his wife, psychiatrist Rima E. Laibow, M.D., founded the Natural Solutions Foundation (NSF)[3], "a non-profit corporation devoted to protecting and promoting health freedom". A large part of what NSF does is to lobby against Codex Alimentarius and for DSHEA. Along with his wife, Stubblebine has been accused by Matthias Rath of intentionally spreading inaccurate and misleading material regarding these issues.[4] |
| quote: | | Major General Albert Stubblebine: A key sponsor of the research internally at Fort Meade, he was convinced of the reality of a wide variety of psychic phenomena, leading him to even attempt to walk through walls. In the early 1980s he was responsible for Army Intelligence, during which time the remote viewing project in the army began. Some commentators have confused Project Jedi supposedly run by Special Forces primarily out of Fort Bragg with Stargate. |
Cuckoo..cuckoo...
Can you pick a more reputable source or do you just link the first thing that comes up in google when you search for "outlandish conspiracy theories that support my wacky untenable position?"
"When the legend becomes fact, print the legend."
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
Yay! A quote off!
Edit: More on Stubblebine
http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/THE_FOUNDATION/Events/codex-moderngeneral.html
| quote: | ...Given this background, and his resulting proximity to the US Government, eyebrows began to be raised in the health freedom community in early 2005 when, along with Rima Laibow, Stubblebine launched the website of the Natural Solutions Foundation and began to promote himself as an expert on Codex Alimentarius.
However, for a man who had previously held several senior posts in US Army Intelligence, and who as such would be acutely aware of the need to ensure accuracy in the gathering of information, it quickly became apparent to experienced health freedom observers that Stubblebine either hadn't done his homework properly, or that he and Laibow were intentionally spreading inaccurate and misleading material on Codex and other related dietary supplement issues via their website and press releases. Moreover, despite repeated concerns being expressed by more experienced health freedom observers, Stubblebine and Laibow continued to disseminate this material, and pointedly ignored requests to remove it from their website... |
Let me guess...they're in on it too! Mulder! Scully!!! |
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