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ASOT2005 Compilation tracklist released (pg. 5)
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| electronicmaji2 |
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| sandstorm03 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Arksun
Fact of the matter is you probably haven't heard half the tracks on it yet, let alone how they're mixed, so you might want to reserve judgement till then. But seeing as its plainly obviously armin isn't your style or 'flow' for you personally it wouldn't be surprising if your opinion stood.
By all means your entitled to it, and your own tastes (it would be a very boring world if we all had the same tastes in music and djing!), however, I take offence at comments calling this a 'cash grab' for armin.
Armin is one of the nicest and honest guys in the business, he's taken a bit of a risk with this album and he sure as hell didn't just randonmly select a load of tracks together but put a lot of effort into this doing HIS own thing.
First you say anyone can mix this, then when its pointed out he's doing things a little different with ableton live, all of a sudden he's not keeping it real because he hasn't used 100% edits like Sasha, gimme a break!.
As for armin live, whenever I've been in a club like Turnmills or festival like Global Gathering he's taken the roof off with his excellent sets. But hey, like you say, he's just not your cup of tea eh :) |
Well I can say suprisingly ive heard almost every track on the album, as I own a couple also. So you can eat that comment.
honestly id rather a better producer with a crappy additude, then somone even slightly worse, with an amazing one.
IMO it does not make any sence to put tracks like
11. Kyau Vs Albert - Falling Anywhere (Rework)
13. Sophie Sugar - Call Of Tomorrow (John O'callaghan Remix)
14. Marcos - Cosmic String
15. John Askew - Mood Swing
at the end of cd1 then go back to prog cd 2????
what is the point. That is flow...
so armin goes from some vocal
slower "prog"
trance builds abit to kyau & Albert
goes epicy with cosmic string
then goes back to progressive house with simply blue & 808
Goes to harder stuff lieb/remy
mixes into g & d ?????????/tilt 12
then goes back to harder stuff like
12. Blank & Jones - Perfect Silence (E Craig Dub)
13. Kyau Vs Albert - Made Of Sun (Kva Hard Dub - Avb Edit)
where he ffs left off in cd1!!!
and ends with fred baker.
i mean come on? is it that hard to notice that he is all over the place?
if he simply put all the prog together with house, then melodic stuff in the middle, then harderstuff at the end it would be much better, inless you like no order at all to your sets. then armin is the guy for you.
and yes ive seen armin 5-6 times... from 2 hour to 6 hour sets... |
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| Arksun |
| quote: | | Well I can say suprisingly ive heard almost every track on the album, as I own a couple also. So you can eat that comment. |
Wow you own two!, congrats.
| quote: | | at the end of cd1 then go back to prog cd 2???? |
lol, Why is that surprising?, surely it makes sense for each media to have its own seperate build rather than considering cd1 building half way and then having to eject... unload, pop in CD 2 and that to be a continuation point as if its one long mix with a 'break'.
Look at some of the greatest compilations there's been, like Northern Exposure One, Each disc its own seperate mixthrough.
| quote: | | at the end of cd1 then go back to prog cd 2???? |
Its called recognising its 2 seperate discs, its very simple concept, lots of compilations do this ;)
If you prefer to limit yourself to 'disc one prog, disc two techy, disc three banging' etc etc then buy elsewhere :)
Notice the words 'rework' and 'avb edit' on some tracks?. lol, look man, what's really sad about your posts is that your pre-judging something and calling it crap before you've even heard it, based purely on a tracklisting of which you only own 2 tracks, have no idea what edits or reworking he's made to any of the others or indeed how he's mixed it all in.
The idea its just a cash grab is just a very unfair and untrue statement, pure and simple. There are loads of other very successful (or more successful) tracks he could have used and just bundled all together for this.. but he didn't. Why?, because of the fact he DID want a good flow, his own style of flowing through the tracks which, again, you have no clue how he's done or how it sounds.
The vibe I've been getting is that this is very much a good listening experience album.
But if you're convinced its not your thing already then fine!.
First its any dj can do this, then its hey he's not 100% edits like sasha, now its that both discs have to be considered as one single mix and this its like he's jumping back down to progressive house. I'm wondering what you'll come up with next!. Maybe that his name has too many syllables and that's why he's crap :haha:
Okok, enough posts :) We've established you're the anti-armin compo movement on this forum, i've said enough and you've said enough, we'll let everyone else decide in their own minds what they make of this album :)
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| RebeL9 |
| if this is as good as ASOT2004 then Im really dissapointed. |
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| EverZ |
| quote: | Originally posted by sandstorm03
Well I can say suprisingly ive heard almost every track on the album, as I own a couple also. So you can eat that comment. |
I think that the good thing about this cd's is that there's relatively alot of tracks that i haven't heard or that i only heard a few times. And that's not because of me, i know almost every track that armin spun and i listen to all armin sets... Compared to other compilations this is very new stuff, for example if Rank 1, Mark Norman, Johan Gielen or Ferry Corsten release a compilation then i've heard most tracks already. A good example of who did it right was G&D with Bloom.
| quote: | | Originally posted by sandstorm03 if he simply put all the prog together with house, then melodic stuff in the middle, then harderstuff at the end it would be much better, inless you like no order at all to your sets. then armin is the guy for you. |
Notice that CD1 is called Light and CD2 Dark, so they have nothing to do with eachother. Also notice that CD2 is indeed alot Darker then CD1. Offcourse CD1 and 2 played after eachother would not make sense, any idiot could see that you're right about that, but the point is that the 2 cd's don't have anything to do with eachother. Both cd's have good flow, but if you would want to make 1 set out of 2 it will never flow.
I agree with Arksun that it seems like you're just trying convince us Armin and this CD suck, but you don't have any good arguments for that.... |
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| sandstorm03 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Arksun
Wow you own two!, congrats.
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thanks
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lol, Why is that surprising?, surely it makes sense for each media to have its own seperate build rather than considering cd1 building half way and then having to eject... unload, pop in CD 2 and that to be a continuation point as if its one long mix with a 'break'.
Look at some of the greatest compilations there's been, like Northern Exposure One, Each disc its own seperate mixthrough.
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Yes i totally agree, but disk 1 & disk 2 are different artists,
and they sure as hell build more then this. compairing this to ne seriels lol!
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Its called recognising its 2 seperate discs, its very simple concept, lots of compilations do this ;) |
any yes many suck
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If you prefer to limit yourself to 'disc one prog, disc two techy, disc three banging' etc etc then buy elsewhere :) |
no but one should play the slower and simpler stuff in the beggining and advance. since you have reffered to the northern exposure cds. do they have hard trance followed by melodic prog, back to hard trance???
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Notice the words 'rework' and 'avb edit' on some tracks?. lol, look man, what's really sad about your posts is that your pre-judging something and calling it crap before you've even heard it, based purely on a tracklisting of which you only own 2 tracks, have no idea what edits or reworking he's made to any of the others or indeed how he's mixed it all in. |
this thread should not have been made, since it could #1 as previousely stated could have a different tracklist, and could never be released at all.
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The idea its just a cash grab is just a very unfair and untrue statement, pure and simple. There are loads of other very successful (or more successful) tracks he could have used and just bundled all together for this.. but he didn't. Why?, because of the fact he DID want a good flow, his own style of flowing through the tracks which, again, you have no clue how he's done or how it sounds.
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for god sakes i hope he does prove me wrong...
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The vibe I've been getting is that this is very much a good listening experience album.
But if you're convinced its not your thing already then fine!.
First its any dj can do this, then its hey he's not 100% edits like sasha, now its that both discs have to be considered as one single mix and this its like he's jumping back down to progressive house. I'm wondering what you'll come up with next!. Maybe that his name has too many syllables and that's why he's crap :haha:
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what are you saying. my points are valid. Can you say he has edited every track? no Can you say he doesnt go from trance to prog to trance....? no
Go listen to Boundries of Imagination
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Okok, enough posts :) We've established you're the anti-armin compo movement on this forum, i've said enough and you've said enough, we'll let everyone else decide in their own minds what they make of this album :)
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| electronicmaji2 |
| quote: | | if this is as good as ASOT2004 then Im really dissapointed. |
:stongue:
but seriously
no mindmarkers? :( |
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| Arksun |
| quote: | | Yes i totally agree, but disk 1 & disk 2 are different artists, |
Actually both discs mixed by both John and Sasha, not one disc per artist :)
The idea of disc one flowing into disc 2 as a single continuous mix is just daft. Fine if you have a dual cd player that seemlessly plays one into the other. Back in the real world however, having 2 seperate mixes makes much more sense.
| quote: | | this thread should not have been made, since it could #1 as previousely stated could have a different tracklist, and could never be released at all. |
Yes that's right, they're having a launch party on the 12th for an album that won't be released :stongue:
Tracklist was confirmed by Armin and I have a funny feeling he might know ;)
| quote: | | Can you say he has edited every track? |
Never said he did. Will you only buy compilations where every single artists work has been changed now for you to consider it 'keeping it real' ?
At least 6 of the tracks on that album haven't even been released yet or played out by armin.
Can you say you can honestly call an album crap before even hearing it, hearing just how its mixed and knowing what the edits are to some of the tracks, let alone what a large chunk of the tracks sound like at all?. In short, no. Hence your critisism is pre-biased and holds little validity at this time pre-release.
Just for the record, as far as money making goes, most people have NO idea the costs involved in promoting and selling something like this. Profit margins are nowhere near as high as some people might think.
Guess that makes 2 of us, but I think I've covered everything this time :) Regards
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| sandstorm03 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Arksun
Actually both discs mixed by both John and Sasha, not one disc per artist :)
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i dont knowabout ne 2 & 3, but ne 1 is definately split by artist.
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The idea of disc one flowing into disc 2 as a single continuous mix is just daft. Fine if you have a dual cd player that seemlessly plays one into the other. Back in the real world however, having 2 seperate mixes makes much more sense.
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LOL i don't mean it like that :stongue: but from the looks, and from the tracks i know, it seems that they both start at the same level of intensity, and end at the same intensity. aka just 2 mixes that dont complement each other.(no i dont think disk 2 is much darker)
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Yes that's right, they're having a launch party on the 12th for an album that won't be released :stongue:
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watch out for them commets :)
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Tracklist was confirmed by Armin and I have a funny feeling he might know ;)
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alright ill take that
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Never said he did. Will you only buy compilations where every single artists work has been changed now for you to consider it 'keeping it real' ?
At least 6 of the tracks on that album haven't even been released yet or played out by armin.
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yea, basically, unless the mixing is absolutely perplexingly good. (ie ne 1, fortier's bedrock, most of digweeds stuff) Some of their stuff is just amazing. I feel that if i want to listen to a mix, i would rather it being a live set, which is the true way artists spin. Or i would simply make a mix.
And yes i think Vandit the sessions 3 was probably the most pointless mix in the world. Wont even listen to it, even if the mixing is good. Maby ill listen to it in a few years.
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Can you say you can honestly call an album crap before even hearing it, hearing just how its mixed and knowing what the edits are to some of the tracks, let alone what a large chunk of the tracks sound like at all?. In short, no. Hence your critisism is pre-biased and holds little validity at this time pre-release.
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I think to say that it is going to be AMAZING is the same thing.
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Just for the record, as far as money making goes, most people have NO idea the costs involved in promoting and selling something like this. Profit margins are nowhere near as high as some people might think.
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i agree, as well as the fact that they dont make the 80g's per night out... |
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| djleft |
oh my god,I don't want to see so many tunes put in one cd!!
Armin disappointed me this time:sadgreen: |
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| quote: | Originally posted by sandstorm03
psychoooooooooo :D |
More......................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: |
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| arturob |
Pacific Passion
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