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What was '99/'00 all about? (pg. 7)
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| basd |
| quote: | Originally posted by kr00t0n
Overaccessability has put out the spark :( |
Exactly. I've been way too picky for the last few years.
Back then (98/99) it was all fun, hell, I even had a blast at the very first TE.. I'm not touching that party with a 30 foot pole nowadays. |
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| Steve Stephano |
I enjoyed reading this thread! Some very insightful posts and a lot of memories shared! Cheers guys, you made my day!
There was so many good productions coming out from that time - my only source for new music was Radio 1 Essential Selections, Judge Jules shows, the Essential Mix and my local record store - I used to go out of my way to visit once a week. I still have hundreds of cassettes having recorded the radio shows from that time and listen to them occasionally.
Everything from how I remember at that time seemed to be building towards the Millenium - as if everyone expected the world to end after that and were just enjoying themselves as much as possible in the meantime.
| quote: | Originally posted by Ian^
most of us who were 18-25 wish we could too ;) |
Make that 18-27!! :p |
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| Cobra Commander |
Man Trance Nation use to be soo great before, Trance Nation 1, 2, 3, 4, 2001-2002 were all amazing and why because Ferry Corsten was on point with these.
All Armin Van Buurens Albums 001-004 and Boundaries Of Imagination
DJ Tiestos Revolution and Magik album where great too
ASOT and GDJB need to go and every other stupid radio show :o |
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| Ishkur |
The glory years of 99-01, as you people like to call it, were nothing of the sort. They just feel that way because that was when the majority of you first started getting into trance. With this whole new world of music being so fresh and new to you, there was no way you could differentiate between quality and crap, and so elect to just like everything, thus hyping the out of scores of ridiculously mediocre tracks. Honeymoon phases have a tendancy to dull anyone's sense of value or worth, but in truth the music had been stagnating since late 97.
Familiarity breeds contempt, so the longer you stay within a genre, the harder it is to find new music in that genre that excites you. It's called the Law of Diminishing Returns. So when you complain that today's tracks don't lift your skirt and it's just not like the good ole days of 99 when every track was awesome.......you're wrong. You've just grown tired and jaded of an old and busted music formula that overstayed its welcome well over six years ago. |
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| Orpheus Is Dead |
| quote: | Originally posted by raydn
Oakies essenital tour(s) and possibly one of oakie's finest sets in june
Paul Oakenfold - Gatecrasher @ Lotherton Hall, Leeds, England
01. Planet Perfecto feat. Grace - "It's Not Over Yet '99 [Breeder's It is Now Remix]"
02. Space Manoeuvres - "Stage One [Tilt's Apollo 11 Mix]"
03. AMbassador - "The Fade [Fade Mix]"
04. Mara - "One [Hamel's Implant Remix]"
05. Space Brothers - "Forgiven [Origin Mix]"
06. Mauro Picotto - "Lizard"
07. Jon Vesta - "Gull"
08. Tekknova - "Last Trip To Paradise"
09. Art of Trance - "Madagascar [Ferry Corsten Remix]"
10. Push - "Universal Nation [Ferry Corsten Remix]"
11. Olmec Heads - "Spritualized [Astral Mix]"
12. Space Brothers - "Heaven Will Come [Olmec Heads Vocal Dub]"
13. CJ Bolland - "The Prophet"
wow :eyes:
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This live set was where i first heard of trance. At that age I was just moving out the stagnating rock scene. Somehow I accidently downloaded this set instead of something else. It was 1:00 in the morning, it prolly changed my life.
Its hard to describe. During that era it felt like something huge was happening, something incredible. I can't explain it.
plus back then, since there weren't so many soft synths and such, people had to rely on their own creativity instead, messing with those 303 controls until they got the exact sound they wanted.
Breeder's remix of not over yet had structure: multiple melodies and different sections, thats something I never hear anymore. Just listening to it you can tell it must have taken a bloody long time to compose.
Every song in this set is a killer. Nothing lifts like them. |
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| Ian^ |
| quote: | Originally posted by Omega_Blue
i think that most clubbers really don't know what's going on like we do though. TA is not the entire "clubbing scene." we're just those select few die-hard fans that obsess about tracklists and whatnot. |
yeah, and that is why so many people still enjoy themselves, yet 'us' the people who've seen the listings, ID every tune, kept upto date with everything brand new, it does apply :) |
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| DaveT |
I just remember back then I would get a live set...often times one of Oakeys, and just have it replay over and over again for like...weeks...and it never got old. Would send chills down my spine the entire set.
Every once in awhile I will still listen to some set from back then and it still makes my spine tingle in a big way.
There music back then WAS carefree. I actually would say a lot of it was rather cheesy by today's standard, but it brought out such an intense emotion within you, it was awesome. I think just the crazy syths and not-so-heavily focused on basslines were just a better mix compared to the complex layered basslines mixed with melodies and vocals we get today.
The music back then just a whole lot more POWER to it. That power has been lost for the time being, but things tend to use go in full circle and I'm sure that style will be back at some point.
Producers simply need to get back to having fun with making their music and just create a banging tune that's their style and of their own imagination instead of taking it soooooooooo seriously (trying to create perfection usually leads to more imperfection)...what's even worse is that it seems soooooooo much of the music created today is created after a producer decides to dig into someone else's production style and make tracks built around that style. I mean, unlike back then a lot of times these days I am absolutely FOOLED into thinking an incoming track is something other than it is because some producer (especially when they are a newcomer) pretty much just steals a bassline and a couple things here and there and then works on trying to create his own track out of it....so while the main part of the track is somewhat unique, it has classic signs of ripoff in it too.
Plus the whole EDM world is so frickin political these days...but that's a whole different topic. |
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| Ian^ |
| quote: | Originally posted by DaveT
Plus the whole EDM world is so frickin political these days...but that's a whole different topic. |
not really, in 99/00 it wasn't so (or not as evident to the average fan) and that meant it didn't detract from the overall fun of the music |
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| Orpheus Is Dead |
www.themixingbowl.org has a torrent of 8 of oakie's essential mixes from 1999.
only two seeds tho, so better move quick. |
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| raydn |
1999/2000 was for me .... Gatecrasher / Cream / Oakey (& Essential Tour) / Judge Jules Weekend Warmup / Dance Anthems (Dave Pearce) / A Trance Communication Release / Additive Records / Black Hole Recordings / ITWT / Neo Records / Flammable Records / Hooj Choons / Crosstrax / WHOOP! / Platipus / Xtravaganza / Ministy Mag / Muzik / M8 Mag / Deejay Mag / WAX Mag / Trance Nation CD Series / Gatecrasher: wet / Cream Live and Ibiza Arrivals and Departures / MOS Clubbers Guide / Magik 1 - 5 / Solar Serenades / In Search Of Sunrise / Lange / Matt Darey / Ferry Corsten (moonman) / Space Brothers / Olmec Heads / Solarstone (Z2) / Transa / Trouser Enthusiasts / Vincent De Moor / Trillseekers/ Signum / (en-motion) / Tiesto / PVD / Armin / Hybrid
tunes... (trance)
Loop Control - Exceptionally Beautiful
Dawnseekers - Gothic Dream EP
Yahel & Eyal Barkan - Voyage
Tilt - Children (Tilt's Courtyard Mix)
Cascade - Transcend (Transa Remix)
Freefall - Skydive
Breeder - Beetlejuice / Tyrantanic / Twilo Thunder
Binary Finary - 1998/1999
Agenda - Heaven (Shane Remix)
X-Cabs - Neuro ('99)
DJ Tiësto - Theme From Norefjell (Magical Remake) / Sparkles
Veracocha - Carte Blanche
Atlantis - Fiji (Fontaine & Vern Original Mix)
Dejure - Sanctuary
Ayla - Ayla (Veracocha Remix)
Cequenza - Cequenza (Rapid Eye vs Thrillseekers Remix)
DJ Alici - Ankhesenamun (Steve Morley Remix)
Gouryella - Gouryella
Bedrock - Heaven Scent
Hand's Burn - Good Shot (Signum Remix)
Jon Vesta - Gull
Rapid Eye - Alderaan
Luis Paris - Incarnations
Cass & Slide - Perception
Chris Raven - I Know You Love Me Too!
DJ Sakin & Friends - Protect Your Mind / Nomansland (Lange Remix)
Fridge - Paradise
Fragma - Toca Me (In Petto Mix)
HH - ICE 794
Moonman - Don't Be Afraid
Lange featuring Sarah Dwyer - I Believe
Marc Et Claude - La
Liquid Child - Diving Faces
Lost Witness - Happiness Happening / Red Sun Rising
Lovechild - Liberta
Lucid - Crazy (Translucid Dub)
Lustral - Everytime (Nalin & Kane Remix)
Mauro Picotto - Pulsar / Lizard / Iguana
Natious - Amber
BT - Godspeed / Mercury & Solace
Andy Ling - Fixation
Nebular B - Liquid
Paragliders - Lithium II
Sebatu - Prayer (Mea's Main Event)
Ruff Driverz - Waiting For The Sun (Heliotropic Mix)
Silent Harmony - Save The Whales
Plantel Perfecto - Bullet In The Gun#
Heliotropic - Walk With Me
AGH - Yummy
Solar Stone - Seven Cities
Salt Tank - Dimension
Lost Tribe - EP
Katcha - Touched By God
Cygnus X - The Orange Theme (Remixes)
Space Manoeuvres - Stage one
Prima - Into The Sun (Trouser Enthusiasts Remix)
Skyscraper - The Hymn
Sunburst - Eyeball
Sundance - Wont Let This Feeling Go
Technique - Sun Is Shining
Sasha - Xpander EP
Nalin & Kane - Open Your Eyes
Luis Paris - Incantation
Thrillseekers - Synaesthesia
The Space Brothers - Heaven Will Come
Signum ft. Scott Mac - Coming On Strong
B.T. + Paul Van Dyk - Namistai
Brainchild - Symmetry C (Vincent De Moor Remix)
Ron Hagen & Pascal M - Forever (Mea Culpa Remix)
Airscape - L'esperanza
Jose Amnesia - The Eternal
Jose Amnesia - Last Sunset In Ibiza
Aurora - Hear You Calling (Blue Room Mix)
The Sneaker - Phase
The Def Set - Ogo
Paul Van Dyk - Another Way ⁄ Avenue
Armin - Communication (Original 12inch Version)
Kamaya Painters - 3-track EP
and all the quality house & club tunes from then from basement jaxx / moloko / fatboy slim / moby / powerhouse / masters at work / eclipse / paul johnson and many more
there must be loads that i've missed off this list but these were some of the big ones for me |
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| serp |
one thing i've found is back then most songs were alot less compressed they had alot more dynamics the beats etc had "air" to them, now we rarely see that, it seems everyone loves to pump the hell out of their tunes
another thing, every element in the song would fit perfectly, none of them were ever more than what they needed to be
it's really hard to try and put into words the difference between then and now but i really agree with the 'unique' thing, each tune sounded so different from the last |
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| richg101 |
i would thank people like dirk m.i.k.e dierickx, taucher, torsten stezel and fred baker for what went on in 99. dj tiesto and ferry were also very very influential.
tracks like universal nation, y-traxx-mysteryland and ayla by ayla were the most influential tracks from 98 and paved the way for gouryella, out of the blue, till i come etc etc.
you just have to listen to the best trance compilation ever- dj tiesto, live at innercity, rai, amsterdam. there are very few trance compilations that you can honestly say all the tracks were stormers. this is one of them.
im glad the fad of 99 is over tho because now us trance dj's who have stuck with it for the love are underground and pretty rare in the uk. i just wish drum and bass and 'urban' cheesy e was nt here.
clubbing is all about rave/trance and its many guises. not r+b and any other chart rubbish... |
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