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so what does everyone think about arnolds decision (pg. 6)
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| Silky Johnson |
| quote: | Originally posted by Azz3D
would you forgive saddam? hitler? stalin? |
Am I talking to a brick wall here??
Open your mind and try to understand what I'm talking about. |
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| Azz3D |
| quote: | Originally posted by jennypie
Am I talking to a brick wall here??
Open your mind and try to understand what I'm talking about. |
why aren't you answering my questions
don't beat around the bush |
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| Masonious |
| quote: | Originally posted by jennypie
No there isn't. Forgiveness is forgiveness, which you obviously don't understand.
I stand by my first statement.
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Is it not possible to forgive someone and at the same time punish them? America doesn't have the right to "forgive" Tookie, that falls upon the families and individuals whose life he destroyed. It's America's job to make sure that punishment is exacted for those who kill innocent people and to protect the founding father's framework as best it can.
If you're saying that forgiveness means you can't punish people then you create lawlessness and society falls apart completely. If you're saying that punishment can be carried out, just not the death sentence, I think that's a totally valid argument. |
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| Silky Johnson |
Look, I'm not going to argue with you guys, because you CLEARLY don't understand what forgiveness is all about...and I'm not going to cast my pearls before swine. Perhaps I'm not articulating enough, but the point I'm trying to make is obviously over your heads.
Bye! |
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| FallingMoon |
| quote: | Originally posted by nchs09
i agree with this though |
+2
& LMFAO @ those pics. |
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| Azz3D |
yup jenny
when all else fails
run
you still didn't answer my questions...
anyway
did any of you hear what bull came out of whitney houston's mouth? apparently, white cops set up tookie 25 years ago
he is innocent
gimme a break
oh and jenny, visit www.michaelsavage.com for up close and personal photos of the victims your reformed "tookie" slaughtered |
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| Silky Johnson |
^^^
None of that will change my mind. You're still missing my point.
This thread needs more Octave One - Blackwater. |
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| Azz3D |
| quote: | Originally posted by jennypie
^^^
None of that will change my mind. You're still missing my point.
This thread needs more Octave One - Blackwater. |
maybe i will not miss your point if you answer my questions |
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| Silky Johnson |
| quote: | Originally posted by Azz3D
maybe i will not miss your point if you answer my questions |
Would I forgive Hitler, Saddam, and Stalin? Yes. And if you understood the concept of forgiveness, you'd understand why EVERY person is worthy.
You'll have to figure that part out for yourself. |
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| Azz3D |
| quote: | Originally posted by jennypie
Would I forgive Hitler, Saddam, and Stalin? Yes. And if you understood the concept of forgiveness, you'd understand why EVERY person is worthy.
You'll have to figure that part out for yourself. |
care to explain the concept of forgiveness? cause you do not make sense
present your case for all 3
i wan't to know why
is 1 life worth more than 6 million? (hitler)
is 1 life worth more than 2 million of his own? (stalin)
and we all know what saddam did
if everyone deserved forgiveness we would not be human |
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| CleverName |
| quote: | | It wasnt Arnie's decision, it was a jurys decision a long time ago. |
| quote: | | As for people disagreeing with "Arnie", the decision was not his to make. |
5 seconds of googling directed me to this website: http://www.cjpf.org/clemency/California.html
Summary: The governor of California can grant a pardon to any inmate (death row or otherwise) at any time. This pardon must be approved by the state Supreme Court.
Therefore, in the hours leading up to the execution, it was most definitely Arnold's decision to make.
As a card carrying member of the ACLU and member of Amnesty International, I'd like to point out to non-Americans that not all of us are blood thirsty supporters of the death penalty.
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| quote: | is 1 life worth more than 6 million? (hitler)
is 1 life worth more than 2 million of his own? (stalin) |
Not to nitpick or anything, but more than 11 million people were killed in Hitler's concentration camps. Stalin personally caused the wrongful death of something like 20 million people.
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/tyrants.htm |
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| Azz3D |
| quote: | Originally posted by CleverName
Not to nitpick or anything, but more than 11 million people were killed in Hitler's concentration camps. Stalin personally caused the wrongful death of something like 20 million people.
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/tyrants.htm |
yeah
it's been a while since my high school history class :P |
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