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Armin van Buuren - A State Of Trance 2006 (pg. 4)
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| DJ RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by DOOMBOT
And honestly, you will never see me argue against this point. I feel the same exact way but I can't really disagree with a dj playing the music if more then half of the crowd is going to enjoy it. Trust me, when I go see Armin or Ferry or any other dj live, I know when I am hearing a fluff filler to cater to those who haven't a clue to quality EDM but when you see how everyone reacts to it you kinda have to understand why he is playing it.
What gets me and what drives me to post the way I do is when someone will post "Armin sucks." and thats just the very end of it. It just boggles my mind how anyone could think that while this guy is packing a club from wall to wall and sells thousands upon thousands of albums. |
Well then allow me to mention one thing I'm sure you don't know about me.
The reason I started spinning records: Armin van Buuren - Blue Fear
:)
Armin doesn't simply "suck," but there are definitely those of us out there who used to be die hard Armin fans that find it hard to see what the current "State of Trance" is. Unfortunately, where we differ in opinion is the qualifications, because where you see the fact that Armin fills clubs and sells albums as a measure of success, it's an area that I don't focus as much on. It is true, I'd absolutely die to have the crowds he does, and who wouldn't want to sell the amount of records he does? However, musically for me (and speaking only for me), it's just gotten to the point where I feel bored.
Which one of us is right? Probably neither and both, because your qualifications are no less valid for you simply because they aren't the same as mine. It's just a difference of opinion that is exascerbated by the fact the the qualities we're comparing are proverbial "apples and oranges," and really shouldn't be compared in the first place.
Cheers. |
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| DOOMBOT |
| 76 is my favorite album by him. The only other album by him that I enjoy as much or close to that one is Transparence 004 and Universal religion 2004 (for the live album). I like the ASOT cd's but they don't wow me. I took a look at the tracklist for this up and coming ASOT and yeah I will buy it and enjoy it but I am sure it will only be a matter of a couple months before its in the same spot ASOT 2005 is. |
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| DJ RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by DOOMBOT
76 is my favorite album by him. The only other album by him that I enjoy as much or close to that one is Transparence 004 and Universal religion 2004 (for the live album). I like the ASOT cd's but they don't wow me. I took a look at the tracklist for this up and coming ASOT and yeah I will buy it and enjoy it but I am sure it will only be a matter of a couple months before its in the same spot ASOT 2005 is. |
Check PM m8, and thank you for taking part in a REASONABLE debate in an Armin thread... so rare here these days!
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| Satelllite |
ok, even though my english is far from good, i'll try to argue with you in some points...
| quote: | Originally posted by Arksun
It's genuine.
I get the impression that unless at least half the tracks are total unknowns, never even been played anywhere or heard by a soul, people will moan that they've heard it all before. |
i think you're wrong here... at least, if i haven't heard, for example, this new track by Leon Bolier, i won't moan that i heard it.
you think there're some people who always feel the necessity of moaning, blaming, etc... well, i'm not belong into this category! and i think now there're just a few people who awlays say just 'it sucks' and thats all that they can say.
...i agree, if you're not listening to asot, when you will be interested in it. but if you are, it just looks like another episode of asot. yes, there are some good tunes in this, but we've already heard all of them. i always thought that if you want to release a comp/mix cd, you should put some fresh material in it to interest people who are waiting for some new exclusive tunes!
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My track has only been played once, ever, on my own guestmix on TATW and there's probably people out there who'd call Arisen overplayed!, simply because they ripped the show stream and have listened to that many times themselves. But they only have themselves to blame. |
nah.. i even think there's much more people who havent even heard anything of Arisen. :)
i have to agree with you here. that's why i didn't rip or d/l many shows now, like TATW, ASOT, etc just because i'm afraid of getting tired of some awesome track.
btw, congats for Arisen :) truely amazing track! (and this is not an asslicking!)
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You have no idea how frustrating this is for us producers and the dj's too. Sometimes you HAVE to test the water to see how people react to tracks, but in doing so open the p2p floodgates, then when tracks get licensed onto compilations, everyone complains its overplayed, i wonder why... :rolleyes: |
ok, i have to agree with you here.
may be i was too harsh with my statement, so i'm sorry for that! but i meant i'm disappointed with this t/l, and not with tunes.
| quote: | Doesn't matter if the tracks 6 months old, 3 months, a month!, people feel the need to call a track old and overplayed. Pointless.
ehh if you really will spin the same tunes in almost every radioshow people ofcourse will moan about it.[QUOTE]
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This isn't A State of Total Unknowns, this is A State Of Trance 2006, a compilation of good tracks from the past 12 month odd, no doubt beautiful mixed together in a very musical way. But I guess we'll only really know that when its released. |
and i've always thought that a state of trance means a state of some unknown, interesting, fresh stuff from the year when the compilation is out, and not we-have-heard-these-tracks-100 times (for example shadow world, white sand etc). i'm not speaking they are bad, no. they are good. but! they are already whored by armin till death.
but tasties differ, i know, thats just my humble opinion.
oh god and why he continues to play his sail track in every set :rolleyes: there's another proff that armin has a lack of ideas. |
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| LeonB |
| but, these tracks like white sand, are just SOME tracks on the album that are played out much already. And well, I guess Armin thinks the tracks deserve to be on the album since he likes the tracks, despite of what people think who listen to ASOT every week. |
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| Reactic |
| quote: | | .. it just looks like another episode of asot |
yeah, ASOT brings you the newest tunes, and so does this compilation, too, most of the tunes are unknown, so why do you say that "we've already heard all of them" - it's simply not true! and don't complain, that this is another ASOT, because it all comes from armin, its his style, his live shows, his radio show and his cds are all in this "ASOT-style", his name stands for this style, so you can't expect, that he plays electro, like ferry corsten does, or more uplifting stuff, like tiesto..
| quote: | | oh god and why he continues to play his sail track in every set |
that says it all. you are already tired of "sail"?? that song is brand new, yeah many have heard it (there was a thread in the MD forum), but you cant call it overplayed!
| quote: | | i've always thought that a state of trance means a state of some unknown, interesting, fresh stuff |
all in all this mix-cd has enough fresh tracks, if you think they are not interesting, you have to deal with it, for others they may be interesting. just buy cds which you like, armin doesn't know your taste, this cd is not made for you, there are enough people who will like it.
I don't say this cd will rock, every cd has it's disadvantages, but I think that this compilation can't be that bad, because there ARE many unknown tunes and we all know that mixing will be good. what I also like is that CD1 is more progressive, CD2 seams to be from 1st to last track uplifting! I can't remember so much uplfting tracks on ASOT 2004/2005, I think its a good idea, because it gets fast boring when you have only progressive on two disks.. |
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| Geoff |
| stop complaining or stop listening to the shows |
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| Tayfoon |
look at ISOS and look at this
I cant believe people even compare Armin to Tiesto
looks like he gained some weight aswell |
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| john2 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Botol&Cebok
yeah your remix is on it elevation |
How could Armin not put it??It's Elevation's best remix IMO (along side with his collab with Markus Schulz for the remix of Nalin & Kane - Open Your Eyes).Mind blowing track.
I have to say that i was expecting another version of My All,but i hope Markus will have another version in his newest combilation.There are some tunes that every dj has played (whether it's Armin,Ferry,Mark Otten,A&B,younameit) and we know it.There are also some new tunes.Still i don't understand why Armin didn't put Chimera in the combilation (as it will stay as a CDR due to some legal issues with the vocals from the theme of Mission Impossible2).Oh well,i have to say that i am not amazed,but at the same time i can't say i'm disappointed.I'll keep an eye on it but i'm not holding my breath ;) |
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| weymouth |
| It seems if people hear a track more than 3 or 4 times that it's overplayed. This mentality needs to change or internet radio needs to just go away. |
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| Tayfoon |
| Internet radio is what killed Trance in the first place |
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| PersianMafia |
| Don't think I've heard any of the tracks in the tl. That's cause I don't download asot. All the better for me I guess... I've always enjoyed Armin's mix comps, though whatever happened to a UR 2005? |
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