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Angello & Ingrosso - Click (pg. 14)
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| PETRAN |
| quote: | | very true, but you are not 100% correct. You shouldn't just harp on the minimal & electro bandwagons, its really true for all genres of music. In fact I am inclined to say that it is an integral part of music. 80's rock suffered the same fate, people get into a cool sound and start making their own music. The market gets saturated with so many people that nothing sounds unique, the originators can't even keep up, and you have a dead scene. thats the way music goes IMO. |
| quote: | | EDM needs its grunge rock revolution :P |
Yep, that's the way it happens you are right, BUT, FFS, LOL, EDM DOES NOT NEED A F*CKING "GRUNGE ROCK" REVOLUTION BECAUSE, "grunge-rock", despite the fact that it REALLY SUCKED, despite the fact that it was the most anti-artistic think that was ever made, despite the fact that it was attented by masses of 16 year old junkees and it was generally the worst rock genre that EVER existed (well, probably worst than today's "new metal", i don't know they are both terribly bad)it killed and over-shadowed the very beautifull and artistic sound of "shoe-gazer/dream-pop".
"shoe-gazer" was a kind of very dreamy and ethereal "Alternative rock" with the bands using lots of reverb creating the "wall of sound" effect that was characteristic of the current genre. The last result was a type of very dynamic emotional ambience. Key-bands were Slowdive, Lush , My Bloody Valentine, Ride, Galaxie 500 and others. Why i'm saying all these? Because i can see clearly a parallel pattern on what is happening now on EDM and dance scene(unfortunately in a greater scale now).You get a quality sound which gets more exposure and at the same time is slightly more artistic than anything else and suddenly there are a bunch of idiots that due to the fact that they have a specific "image" (even that of the junkee with the black eyes, or of the todays "electroesque" EDM producers who are dressed like 80s pimps)and they are generally different and they are more wild and they have more "rowness" in their songs/productions, but,nevertheless, their music is deadly simplistic and SUCKS BIG TIME (swedish house trash or what ever) they suddenly become the center of the world. Why?Well, because their sound is deadly simple so you get lot's of people(lambs) "liking" them and at the same time they are praised by the media/tv/magazines as the "new revolution" and there you have it(even if you think that what you hear is not "aesthetic" at all you end up liking it.After all is "very cool".) You get lots of fans supporting the trash and at the samne time perceived by all as "cool" by doing that (by following the "cool garbage").
So, on the "EDM grung revolution" i think it allready (and unfortunately) happened with all this "Cool retro-futuristic rowness" that came after electro-clash(trash?) and all this electro revolution...you get all this type of garbage, electro-house,electro-pop,punk-funk,glitch-minimal techno, click-house, clit-house whatever!On the other side there were some genres that trully had the potential. Yes lots of progressive house had it (listen Digweeds MM2), Progpsy maybe, even the mainstream uplifting trance could evolve into a more layered and MORE melodic type of genre BUT it is easier to sell "Simple cool" music with an "image" that will be loved by much more people, rather than more "Artistic music" that will be loved by few. Unfortunately, in EDM scene where "money" is the most important factor, things like that happen all the time, even in down at the "Single tune/12''" level...e.g. in uplifting trance.. solid's globe latest melodic efforts in comparison to filo and peri's massive generic 3-note tune with the female cheesy vocals on top.EDM was very cool in the 90s but not in the 00s and after that where use amounts of money started to get involved. What EDM wants now is not another poppy money-driven revolution but rather a deeper musical evolution. |
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| Tayfoon |
I skip posts that arent written in sentences
Its just in annoying |
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| Demoted |
| quote: | Originally posted by PETRAN
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| Demoted |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tayfoon
I skip posts that arent written in sentences
Its just in annoying |
Who are you, George Bush? Oh I went there. |
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| RapidFire |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tayfoon
I skip posts that arent written in sentences
Its just in annoying |
hey genius, sentences include punctuation. :stongue: |
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| Floorfiller |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tayfoon
I dont see how anyone could go to a club and dance to 2 hours of the EXACT same , oh right you cant !
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so why are you such a big fan of 'swedish house mafia'? that's all they do... |
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| SVGmethod |
| quote: | Originally posted by Floorfiller
so why are you such a big fan of 'swedish house mafia'? that's all they do... |
in his defense...Armin Van Buuren...ASOT...talk about sounding the same for 2 hours. LOL. |
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| Floorfiller |
| quote: | Originally posted by SVGmethod
in his defense...Armin Van Buuren...ASOT...talk about sounding the same for 2 hours. LOL. |
it's only a defense if i don't agree with you :p |
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| Boomer187 |
| quote: | Originally posted by PETRAN
Yep, that's the way it happens you are right, BUT, FFS, LOL, EDM DOES NOT NEED A F*CKING "GRUNGE ROCK" REVOLUTION BECAUSE, "grunge-rock", despite the fact that it REALLY SUCKED... |
I meant it figuratively, not literally. |
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| trancEyes22 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Floorfiller
so why are you such a big fan of 'swedish house mafia'? that's all they do... |
but it's sooooooo good! :p |
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| Phortastic |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tayfoon
I dont see how anyone could go to a club and dance to 2 hours of the EXACT same , oh right you cant !
What kind of lazy bastard started this ? its in minimal which means minimal effort, why do people even like this ?? |
hahahahhaha, coming from you this is ing hilarious. U keep cracking me up man :)
Thx for that :toothless |
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| Protege |
Wow this thread has turned into a pretty big argument. I guess Ill add my 2 cents.
I kinda like minimal. It has its place in dance music and I think that place is to warm up the real music. I think its Digweed and probably some other djs that play maybe an hour or so of minimal to warm up their sets and thats fine, it works there.
However, I cant imagine an entire night devoted to minimal as it gets old pretty fast. Some minimal is good and some is really good (John Tejada) but most of it is long drawn out bleepy-ness thats annoying as hell to listen to.
And as far as 'Click' is concerned, yeah it sucks but go on beatport and listen to the minimal tracks on there and its not any worse than any of them. But it will get played just cause it has the Angello and Ingrosso name on it.
Hopefully the boys will go back to what they do best and produce something of the quality of the Sotckholm Disco EP or even Teasing Mr. Charlie. |
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