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DarV
I dont understand some people that say technically palestinians were oppertunistic to take the land back in the days when jews were deported.. Dont be Effen stupid how about american indians coming back today and claiming their right to their land and lets point out that it hasent been thousands of years since they were decimated. How would americans deal with it they would fight it like the palestinians are right now. Would we call them terrorists as well, no why cuz they re american they re better then everyone else... Whats the deal with people using the word terrorism a lot, what israel is doing isnt terrorism or is only the word being used when it suits certain countries and certain gouvernemnts. In this way it gives them the ultiamte right to do whatver they want to do cuz they re fighting terrorism. AMERICA and its foreign policy is so messed up they have no idea what they have engaged tehmsevles in. And i feel bad for the american people cuz ultimatly people regular people will suffer.


So I ask everyone here would u let the american indians take back their lands by wars or would u fight for them. And if ur answer is that you will fight them then i guess that makes u a terrorist.
Scolomon
Instead of fighting indians, we give them casinos and everyone is happy. perhaps the solution here is to just give palestinians casinos
Stassi
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Originally posted by Blake


Rice for president 2008! :rolleyes:

thats not funny! If such a thing happens, Me and Pearl Jam are packing up and leaving the country!
Miss Bliss
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Originally posted by Scolomon
Instead of fighting indians, we give them casinos and everyone is happy. perhaps the solution here is to just give palestinians casinos


No, I told you, the solution is to move Israel to North Dakota!

Anyway, we are all like the UN and the rest of the world.. talktalktalk.. my friends went to a Security Council meeting last week and said it was mighty depressing...
Blake
quote:
Originally posted by Scolomon
Instead of fighting indians, we give them casinos and everyone is happy. perhaps the solution here is to just give palestinians casinos


Yeeeeeees! The answer was right in front of us the whole time.
:wtf:

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Originally posted by Stassi
thats not funny! If such a thing happens, Me and Pearl Jam are packing up and leaving the country!


Funny you should say that. I knew a few people who left to the UK and Australia when Bush was re-elected.

"Condie vs Clinton 2008!" LOL! I don't even know what I'd do. :rolleyes:

A co-worker today posed that Israeli aggression doesn't look so unjustified when compared to some of the things the US has done in the past in response to attacks on its soil. I don't know if rationalization is the way to go here but it does put things in perspective a bit.
Stassi
quote:
Originally posted by Blake

"Condie vs Clinton 2008!" LOL! I don't even know what I'd do. :rolleyes:

Vote Nader?
DeRangedMind
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Originally posted by Stassi
Vote Nader?



HELL NO that freakin idiot stole some votes so I really hope that assclown stays shhh this time around so we can have smooth race for the office
fr0st
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Originally posted by DeRangedMind
HELL NO that freakin idiot stole some votes so I really hope that assclown stays shhh this time around so we can have smooth race for the office



yeah +1 for the two party system. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
DJ_Lord
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Originally posted by Aspy
Now two Israil soldiers are killed or kidnapped and this is a reason for Israil attack.

Excuse me


Are You Kidding?


One life is the same as 245,000,000 lives...

you can agree or not but if one of my brothers is suffering you be well assured i will do ANYTHING to save him or her. period. end of story.
Stassi
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Originally posted by DJ_Lord
One life is the same as 245,000,000 lives...

you can agree or not but if one of my brothers is suffering you be well assured i will do ANYTHING to save him or her. period. end of story.

If one of my brothers is suffering, no country would give a . People suffer everyday, and soldiers, well, they suffer too! But since when was one persons suffering sufficient excuse for *War*.

Taub
Does anyone here listen or watch Tavis Smiley? he has a show on PBS


well if you want some intersting info on how much americas budget goes to the pentagon. Listen to the show. The co-founder of "Ben and Jerrys" Ben Cohen does a very good job at making sense of how much money america wastes on defense program/nuclear progam.

listen to the July 21st show if interested.

http://www.pbs.org/kcet/tavissmiley/archive/200607/
Aspy
quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Lord
One life is the same as 245,000,000 lives...

you can agree or not but if one of my brothers is suffering you be well assured i will do ANYTHING to save him or her. period. end of story.


thats what you SHOULD do dued. Thats normal but we have lost a lot of ppl including civilians.


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The Next Front

Pressure is building on Ankara to deal more harshly with cross-

border terrorist attacks from Iraq.

July 31, 2006 issue - Israel launched airstrikes on Lebanon in

response to attacks by Hizbullah earlier this month, and George W.

Bush called it "self-defense." But what to tell the Turks, who over

the last week lost 15 sol-diers to terror attacks launched by sepa-

ratist Kurds from neighboring Iraq? Many Turkish leaders are

pressing for cross-border tactical air assaults on the guerrillas.

But Bush, fearing yet another escalation of the Middle East's

violence, urged Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan to hold

off. "The message was, unilateral action isn't going to be helpful,"

says a senior U.S. official, describing the 15-minute phone

conversation. "The president asked for patience."



And so Turkish forces are holding fast—for now—in deference to their

half-century alliance with the United States. But that patience is

bound to be challenged, probably sooner than later. Domestic

political pressures are building to take a leaf from Israel's book

and hit back at the guerrillas of the Kurdistan Work-ers' Party, or

PKK. Since the beginning of the year, attacks on Turkish military

garrisons and police stations have esca-lated across the country's

southeast, along with random shootings, bombings and protests—many

of them, authorities suspect, organized in Iraq. Already the Turkish

military has laid detailed plans for possible helicopter-and-

commando assaults, government sources tell NEWSWEEK. Meanwhile,

Ankara's frustration with Washington has grown palpable. For all the

Bush administration's repeated promises to crack down on the PKK,

little if anything has happened. With elections coming next year,

Erdogan could be pardoned for soon concluding that his forbearance

might prove politically dangerous. "Moderate, liberal people in

Turkey are becoming increasingly anti-American," warns Turkey's

Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul. "That isn't good."


Erdogan has built a career on skillfully riding populist waves, and

he's not going to miss this one. On the one hand, he recognizes the

importance of maintaining good relations with America, if only to

foil critics who lambaste him for being too Islamist. On the other,

popular anger at the PKK is getting explosive. At the funeral of a

murdered soldier in Izmir last week, crowds destroyed wreaths sent

by Erdogan's Interior Minister Abdulkadir Aksu and the city's

governor, Oguz Kaan Koksal. Some mourners chanted slogans accusing

the government of cooperating with the PKK. And when a group of 60

human-rights activists were arrested in the resort of Kiyikoy on

suspicion of being PKK sympathizers last week, locals attacked the

detainees with stones and iron bars.




The Turkish press has been baying for action, with even the solidly


pro-American Turkish Daily News railing in an editorial that "Turkey

is no banana republic that can leave its security to the mercy of

others." Another editorial posed the question more directly. "Why is

it that Israel has the right to 'self-defense'," the paper

asked, "and not Turkey." The country's usually fractious

parliamentary opposition, in a rare moment of unity, called for

active intervention. "Opposition," says True Path Party leader

Mehmet Agar, "ends at Habur"—Turkey's border crossing with Ira



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