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israel & lebanon (pg. 5)
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| ProggieGuy |
| quote: | Originally posted by InterMilan31
Well Lebanon is to blame for allowing Hezbollah to occupy most of the south of Lebanon is it not? To me they brought this on to themselves. |
How do you figure this? The Hezbollah militia is larger than the Lebanese security force. They don't "allow" Hezbollah to occupy the south. They have no choice. |
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| colibri |
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| Miss Bliss |
| There was a pro-Palestinian rally outside my building today cause it's right across from the Israeli mission, so they stuck them on the other side of the street so they wouldn't bother people coming out of there. I intern at the United Nations Association of the USA & the Business Council of the US 2x a week and the perk is I get a UN pass... thinking about going to the cafeteria and hitting up Kofi for lunch :p |
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| Groundhog Boy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Miss Bliss
There was a pro-Palestinian rally outside my building today cause it's right across from the Israeli mission, so they stuck them on the other side of the street so they wouldn't bother people coming out of there. I intern at the United Nations Association of the USA & the Business Council of the US 2x a week and the perk is I get a UN pass... thinking about going to the cafeteria and hitting up Kofi for lunch :p |
They had some rally against the US support of Israel on the 2nd at Union Square that we passed in a cab. We caught the light on 14th and Broadway and were treated to groups of men yelling in each other's faces, which I absolutely loved because it's representative of the whole situation: a lot of talk, with no regard for what anyone else has to say. |
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| Blake |
| quote: | Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
They had some rally against the US support of Israel on the 2nd at Union Square that we passed in a cab. We caught the light on 14th and Broadway and were treated to groups of men yelling in each other's faces, which I absolutely loved because it's representative of the whole situation: a lot of talk, with no regard for what anyone else has to say. |
That's deep. :sadgreen: |
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| DJ Charlie |
| quote: | Originally posted by Miss Bliss
I think what he's saying is that Hezbollah attacks Israel because it occupied Lebanon, whereas the reason for the occupation was because of strikes on Israel that Israel needed to thwart... So it's true that superficially, this is about sovereignty and the right to be independent and protect your country... religion becomes involved in a historical sense, about the Holy Land and centuries-old conflict. But if you think it hasn't extended beyond religion by now, you are mistaken... |
thing is in Lebanon there are Christians and Muslims, and some others
Hezbollah are muslims, a lot of them are not even real lebanese
they are Palestinians that were deported to lebanon cause the conflict with israel and palestine, it was still happening back then...
back in the days, egypt, jordany, syria, and irak and iran i think, made war against israel... lebanon wasn't involved
it was in 1967 i think
the war lasted for a couple of days and after that, all the arab countries FORCED lebanon to give the south part of their land to people who still wanted to fight Israel... these people are now Hezbollah and thats why Israel occupied south lebanon for a while.
as you all know by now, hezbollah is backed by syria and iran.
in early 80's, Hezbollah created a civil war between christians and muslims in Lebanon for religious and power reasons. thats when syria took over lebanon and controlled its government until day.
When they killed the old lebanese prime minister Rafic Hariri because he wanted Syria out of the country, the UN and all that forced them out of lebanon... The real lebanese people were happy about that but the only way we can take over our country back is by getting rid of Hezbolllah. Problem is their army supplies (backed by syria and iran) are much stronger than the lebanese military.
Thats why we can't do much about it.
Today Hezbollah kidnaped 2 israelis solders killed a few others to exchange them for hezbollah prisonners. They weren't expecting a respond like that from israel. Hezbollah action wasn'T planned by the lebanese gorvernement, it was a decision made by nasrallah (puppet of syria and iran).
Israel is getting rid of hezbollah, but they are not doing it pretty nicely for now... they are demolishing the entire country, killing civilians instead of looking for precise hezbollah targets. |
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| colibri |
| quote: | Originally posted by Miss Bliss
colibri, your PM box is full, and I study European Politics & Journalism :) |
hey is there such a thing as
objective and unbias journalism?
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| Taub |
| quote: | Originally posted by Miss Bliss
there is only one solution: relocate Israel into North Dakota!!! |
That might be the best solution. It wasn't such a great idea to make a jewish state surrounded by all muslim states. Those countires who made that decision after WWII didn't think very well.
In order to save 3 soldiers there are over 250+ dead, that doesn't look very good. Ill take the lives of 3 over 250 any day |
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| Blake |
| quote: | Originally posted by Taub
That might be the best solution. It wasn't such a great idea to make a jewish state surrounded by all muslim states. Those countires who made that decision after WWII didn't think very well.
In order to save 3 soldiers there are over 250+ dead, that doesn't look very good. Ill take the lives of 3 over 250 any day |
"Save the lives" ? Heh. :rolleyes:. They were just looking for an excuse to make the first move, and what better way than an Ultimatum. Heck, we did it with Iraq: "Saddam can either leave the contry, or we'll make the first move."
On a bit of a side note, I really think we need to just chill. Bush seems to be planting some counterproductive seeds before he leaves office. ... or maybe it's the real mastermind behind all this: Chaney! :disbelief Muahahahahahaha! |
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| chi6me8ra |
| quote: | Originally posted by Blake
"Save the lives" ? Heh. :rolleyes:. They were just looking for an excuse to make the first move... |
most definitely
| quote: | Originally posted by Blake
Bush seems to be planting some counterproductive seeds before he leaves office. ... or maybe it's the real mastermind behind all this: Chaney! :disbelief Muahahahahahaha! |
Don't think they knew about this or the US would have be prepared to airlift ciizens faster. Also, after hearing what W said to Pootie-Poot I continue to question his mental abilities |
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| Groundhog Boy |
| quote: | Originally posted by chi6me8ra
Don't think they knew about this or the US would have be prepared to airlift ciizens faster. Also, after hearing what W said to Pootie-Poot I continue to question his mental abilities |
Being prepared for a disaster even with tons of advance knowledge has never been the US's strong suit. |
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| chi6me8ra |
| quote: | Originally posted by chimera66
Don't think they knew about this or the US would have be prepared to airlift ciizens faster. Also, after hearing what W said to Pootie-Poot I continue to question his mental abilities |
| quote: | Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
Being prepared for a disaster even with tons of advance knowledge has never been the US's strong suit. |
You speak the truth |
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