If I were single and lonely, I'd probably give a what someone on a website thinks about my intelligence/confidence level.... oh wait, nope, I don't give a regardless.
Anyhow, I don't think women are irrational. I think young immature women are irrational. I also think young immature men are irrational. How about a round of irrationality for everyone?! :toothless I don't like the media bombarding people with an empty sense of self-esteem and taking away from looking into other people's personality/intelligence/self-confidence, etc.
We're arguing the same point really... but I'm not having a good day at work, so I'm being an ass. (hey at least I admit it)
Silky Johnson
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Originally posted by Marcolissimo
We're arguing the same point really... but I'm not having a good day at work, so I'm being an ass. (hey at least I admit it)
Actually we're not. I give people a lot more credit than you do. What I'm saying is that people need to stop falling back on excuses like "nice guys finish last", or whatever else, as reasons for them not being able to have successful relationships. ;)
Isn't blaming the media for everything like, so 10 years ago? I remember that being a popular scapegoat when I was in high school.
Marcolissimo
If people have unsuccessful relationships, then they need to look elsewhere for reasons why they're failing. I pretty much read the article/blog in the first post and thought "yeah, immature people do look for immediate gratification out of partners and not long term. I don't think people are that stupid, so there's gotta be something else messing with their minds".
Using the "... finish last" line is only acceptable if nice/decent people are not even given the chance to show what they're worth. I know both guys and girls who're stuck in that hole. Of course, half the time it's work/family/travel that gets in the way of finding a compatible mate.
I don't know what was popular 10 years ago my friend. I don't even know what's popular today. One of the reasons I like TA is cause not everyone here thinks about what's "in" and what's "out". I state my opinion, whether it's been stated before or perhaps out of style, doesn't bother me much! :)
Silky Johnson
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Originally posted by Marcolissimo
If people have unsuccessful relationships, then they need to look elsewhere for reasons why they're failing. I pretty much read the article/blog in the first post and thought "yeah, immature people do look for immediate gratification out of partners and not long term. I don't think people are that stupid, so there's gotta be something else messing with their minds".
Obviously you DO think people are that stupid, if you're willing to believe that the media is at fault for their problems.
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Originally posted by Marcolissimo
Using the "... finish last" line is only acceptable if nice/decent people are not even given the chance to show what they're worth. I know both guys and girls who're stuck in that hole. Of course, half the time it's work/family/travel that gets in the way of finding a compatible mate.
This is also a load of , imo. More excuses. You want something in life, you go out and take it...you don't sit around and wait for it to come to you. Not given a chance? Give me a break...TAKE your chance.
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Originally posted by Marcolissimo
I don't know what was popular 10 years ago my friend. I don't even know what's popular today. One of the reasons I like TA is cause not everyone here thinks about what's "in" and what's "out". I state my opinion, whether it's been stated before or perhaps out of style, doesn't bother me much! :)
You missed my point again. I only said that because we're adults, and by now most adults should be accountable for their life, and be able to take responsibility for whatever good and bad happens to them...not blame it on the media or other outside sources, like an immature high school kid. ;)
Anyways, now I'm just arguing for the sake of arguing...sorry about that. We're clearly not on the same page of understanding here. :p
Marcolissimo
Just realized this whole thread is from a year ago. And people have already talked about what I was saying. I said what I wanted to say, and now reiterating it would be waste of my time and everyone else's.
Next topic please.:D
m2j
This "good guy vs. bad guy" debate is so lame.
"Good guys" just victimize themselves as if the "bad guys" are the evil big bad s that 'steal' their 'good' girls. The reality is "good guys" are just too lazy to try & impress the opposite sex and are afraid to take risks. They expect women to just fall into their laps.
All the "good guys" that are complaining here need to stop trying to pin their short comings onto others. just relax, go out on a limb, take a risk and just let things work themselves out... and don't over think everything.
I'm not a ladies man by any extent, but at least i know when I'm at fault for being too careless or lazy.
Btw, I used all those quotations because "good guys" like deem "bad guys" as 'bad' just because they're more successful than they are with women. "Bad guys" are just "good guys" that actually work for where they are in their relationships.
"Good guys" do not finish last because they're 'good' - they finish last because they think they're 'good' and that it gives them some superior status where women (as well as everyone else) should drop to their knees to be with them. The world doesn't work like that...
Spike
gosh when will people learn...if anyone is to blame for your inadequacies its your parents!
but seriously, not everyone in this world gets dealt the same hand in life...it may not be your fault for receiving whatever hand it is you get but IT HAS to be your fault for not doing anything to change it. at least thats how i see it....in the end like jenny said we our responsible for ourselves and how we CHOOSE to think which affects our emotions which affects our actions. think about it
AustralianGQ
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Originally posted by jennypie
Do you really think you command any respect? Dude, you don't even respect yourself, how can you expect a woman to, just because you treat her amazing? There's more to it than that.
If you're getting treated like , ing leave. It's pretty simple. If you stick around to get treated poorly, that's gonna send the message that it's what you want.
God.
dont act stupid...u really think i put up wit it?
b/c i dont, i walk and move on after a while, hoping she will change, when she doesnt, i do move on. but its the same thing with every girl
AustralianGQ
"The reality is "good guys" are just too lazy to try & impress the opposite sex and are afraid to take risks. They expect women to just fall into their laps."
WRONG....im not lazy at all, im always looking to meet ppl wherever i can and initiate things and try to get to know a girl...i take risks all the time, when i think it will benefit me and i stand to gain something, i dont expect anything to fall into my lap, i work for it...
ur wrong.
Zentac_75
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Originally posted by AustralianGQ
but its the same thing with every girl
have you considered radically changing your criteria for woman that you find attractive ???
I've noticed many people who seem to experience the same repeated pitfalls in relationships, do so because they subconsciously are attracted to people they are not compatible with.
It sounds strange. Im not a shrink but it goes along with the whole theory that daughters with abusive fathers gravitate towards abusive men, sons with dominating mothers gravitate to dominating women etc...
Just a suggestion. I'm hoping you get lucky in love sooner than later. There are enough cynics in the world.
m2j
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Originally posted by AustralianGQ
"The reality is "good guys" are just too lazy to try & impress the opposite sex and are afraid to take risks. They expect women to just fall into their laps."
WRONG....im not lazy at all, im always looking to meet ppl wherever i can and initiate things and try to get to know a girl...i take risks all the time, when i think it will benefit me and i stand to gain something, i dont expect anything to fall into my lap, i work for it...
ur wrong.
well then i guess you just aint got no game, playa! :P
but in all seriousness, just keep doing your thing, learn from mistakes, and things will work themselves out.
