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5 Steps to Getting the Girl of Your Dreams (pg. 12)
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Inertia
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Originally posted by astroboy
My point is if someone's problem is being overly logical, analytical and geeky in his approach to social interaction, then a book that purports to logically analyse social interaction and give him a system to follow isn't going to help him. I don't think it's something you can learn from a book. Learning to socially interact from scratch isn't like learning javascript, you cant do it from a book.

I'd write a one page guide saying go out there and hang out in places you don't normally go. picking up, start by trying to engage as many different people (not just women) in conversation as you can. The kind of people you don't normally talk to. Try to find out what they feel passionate about and what makes them interested in the things they're interested in. And the whole time try to be constantly gauging their interest in the conversation when they lose interest, when their interest is aroused etc. Just be mindful of and notice these things and your brain will subconsciously perform the analysis and after some experience your natural behaviour will adjust itself without you even noticing.


first things first, the books don't analyze the situations logically, because cold male logic doesn't really apply to this type of thing. one of the authors of a series of the books (David DeAngelo) declares that many of the concepts are quite counterintuitive in natura.

furthrmore, you have NO IDEA how much that 2nd bit looks like it was taken off a synopsis of one of the books. you'd laugh if you knew. do what i did: try to get a copy of one of the books for s and giggles. they are mostly good reads, interesting, amusing and you never know what you might learn. might change your mind on the subject.

not to mention, you cannot build your case on one isolated individual. this fellow could have been a very slow learner. furthermore, and most books stress this point with a lot of vigor: it is more HOW you say it than what you say. again, DeAngelo says that if you get the idea, it doesn't really matter what you say.

using my previous example, there are lots of martial arts students that still suck at fighting. theres a certain element that the individual must add, it doesn't boil down to technique and concept alone.

again, i'm not trying to sell the books, but i think they are pretty good material, and might help people more than most would like to admit.
Vlad
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Originally posted by herflyness
Anything you want..................

Bahahahaha

I LUV VLAD!

:tongue2 :tongue2 :tongue2 :tongue2



but of course you do.
Psy-T
quote:
Originally posted by astroboy
My point is if someone's problem is being overly logical, analytical and geeky in his approach to social interaction, then a book that purports to logically analyse social interaction and give him a system to follow isn't going to help him. I don't think it's something you can learn from a book. Learning to socially interact from scratch isn't like learning javascript, you cant do it from a book.

I'd write a one page guide saying go out there and hang out in places you don't normally go. picking up, start by trying to engage as many different people (not just women) in conversation as you can. The kind of people you don't normally talk to. Try to find out what they feel passionate about and what makes them interested in the things they're interested in. And the whole time try to be constantly gauging their interest in the conversation when they lose interest, when their interest is aroused etc. Just be mindful of and notice these things and your brain will subconsciously perform the analysis and after some experience your natural behaviour will adjust itself without you even noticing.

If you don't like certain aspects of yourself then change. And I mean truly change, pretending to be someone else, be yourself just allow the "self" to change. We are all in a state of becoming, you can change aspects of your self without pretending to be someone else while still being true to yourself.


you're reitterating the aformentioned systems in those 3 paragraphs.
Inertia
quote:
Originally posted by Psy-T
you're reitterating the aformentioned systems in those 3 paragraphs.


stop stealing my ideas n00b! :p
Vlad
I wish you guys the best of luck with this finding the girl of your dreams... cause I think I found mine.
makija
thats nonsens the right one .......... doesnt exists that is just an urban legent or a myth so there
astroboy
quote:
Originally posted by Psy-T
you're reitterating the aformentioned systems in those 3 paragraphs.


Fair enough. I can't really talk as I have never read the literature. I suppose I can see the value of something that teaches people how to learn to communicate rather than one which purports to teach them how to communicate.
English Rachel
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Originally posted by Vlad
Baume et Mercier is the watch Im going for from step three.


I bought myself one for my birthday, a Hampton Milleis, I guess that's why I end up getting interest from girls, not men.

Damn.

Better take it off.
RapidFire
step 1: dont listen to guides and do what feels natural ;)
asfdz
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Originally posted by RapidFire
step 1: dont listen to guides and do what feels natural ;)


Step 2: get heart broken
Step 3: Re-read guide
Step 4: Fall back in love with "stranger" hand

OurManFlint
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Originally posted by Vlad
The funniest thing about this is... I cant have any kind of conversation AT ALL with American girls. But girls from other countries, no problem at all to strike up a conversation. Im sorry, but girls in the US are so ing dense its saddening.
Haha, I've had that same observation. Everytime I go to another country, be it Mexico, Canada, when I went to Europe, it was so simple to start a conversation with some girl, and it never got awkward. In the US, more often than not, the girls are dense and it seems like they get disinterested in conversation fast. I'm not just talking abouot girls who I was interested in, just girls in general who I've talked with for whatever reason. In other countries, girls love conversation...
Lunar Phase 7
Sounds too ing calculated to me.
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