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5 Steps to Getting the Girl of Your Dreams (pg. 7)
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| Inertia |
| quote: | Originally posted by astroboy
I think the whole "when analysed from such-and-such perspective" attitude is the problem with people who say they have a system to manipulating human behaviour. I think communication is done best by improvisation. The moment you start "analysing" I think you've gone wrong.
If someone had a "system" for communicating with me and had planned out their strategy and what they were going to say I'd probably spot it in an instant... That kind of stuff would just prevent people from acting natural and would stick out like a sore thumb. Sure it might work on some people, but I think anyone who's reasonably clue on socially (ie. the kind of girls i'm interested in) would smell something fishy straight away.
Don't prepare yourself, don't make a game plan, just go in and be spontaneous, be yourself. If you have any common sense, you won't make a fool of yourself.. if she doesn't like you then you know that it is YOUR personality she doesn't like... which means you probably weren't compatible in the first place - no loss.
Remember kids: Be yourself, cos everyone else is taken. |
well, you see, if i am on the same page as Psy, and i think i am, these systems aren't static, as he very well mentioned. think of styles such as tae kwon do or muay thai, they are both fighting systems, and also martial arts. a lot of science and physics to both, but typing on a computer and reading books cannot teach you how to fight. yes, you can crunch them down to basic techniques, but when employed correctly, they are more than the sum of their parts. not to mention, the same technique will not be employed the same way by 2 different practicioners. furthermore, to the trained eye, watching a fight, you can tell what style the fighter practices, however, step into the ring and fight him yourself. sure, you may even come prepared with the knowledge of what style he has, but you don't really know the spinning hook kick or flying elbow is coming till it smacks you in the head.
catch my drift? in other words, these systems are made to teach men how to convey attraction and alpha-male type qualities. its a fact that no matter how much you 'be yourself', whilst being honest, you will unwillingly, involuntarily and unknowingly put a lot of women off, with things that don't necessarily have to be turnoffs. it's not just what you say, it's how you say it and when you say it. basically, the systems would teach you how to say whatever the hell it is you want to say, but to make sure you get the point across, instead of saying something and having her interpret something else.
say i want to meet a woman. say i want to be myself. i'm a nice person. she is attractive. we are at a bar. i walk up and say 'hi'. she may even awkwardly say 'hi' back... and then? unless i have a lot of experience in this sort of thing, i won't be able to conjure up conversation from thin air, and 'ehh, can i buy you a drink?' will just echo of every loser she has already shot down in the evening. i understand THIS is where these systems come into play. |
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| Silky Johnson |
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The problem with using a system is that eventually she's gonna find out you're a loser anyways.
I'm sorry, but I think a lot of women can spot ANY sort of "game" a mile away, and I would rather take a "loser" over an alpha-male any day...as long as his approach to me was sincere. |
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| Vlad |
| quote: | Originally posted by jennypie
^^^
The problem with using a system is that eventually she's gonna find out you're a loser anyways.
I'm sorry, but I think a lot of women can spot ANY sort of "game" a mile away, and I would rather take a "loser" over an alpha-male any day...as long as his approach to me was sincere. |
Thats not true, being able to spot guys like that means the woman has to have a clue, and since alot dont, they get sucked into the antics and become just another number. |
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| Silky Johnson |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vlad
Thats not true, being able to spot guys like that means the woman has to have a clue, and since alot dont, they get sucked into the antics and become just another number. |
Ok correction: most SMART women. :p |
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| Inertia |
| quote: | Originally posted by jennypie
Ok correction: most SMART women. :p |
so not most. :p
you guys are still not getting it. you said it yourself, "she'll find out you are a loser anyways". so, losers should never get girls? if i were a computer nerd, say i programmed AI for XBOX games, spent the entire day behind a computer looking at code, or playing the games i'm programming, listened to obscure rock bands and had no clue of fashion, even tho i am one of the most loyal friends, extremely intelligent, speak 4 languages, not to mention get paid damn well, i am still socially a "loser". because of this i don't deserve a girl?
these type of systems just explain to men who don't have a clue how to get one. to NOT blab off about that weird flow control error you're getting on the 52nd level of the new Ninja Gaiden game, to try and dress a little better, and how to stand out by being yourself... in a GOOD way.
i've read a bit of the material, and i'm all for it because it is all logical stuff that i think is just interesting towards the study of human behavior/communication.
the emphasis of these methods normally are: to NOT be intimidated by a woman, no matter how hot she is, to NOT let her walk all over you, no matter how hot she is, to NOT spend money on her if there is no real reason to, NOT change your habits or tastes for her unless you want to, and if she tries some , call her on it.
think about it jenny. i mean, i'm sexy as and all, but if i walked up to you in a club and was just all 'hi, i wanna talk', you'd probably give me a hard time and break my balls a bit just for the sake of it. since i'm sexy as , it wouldn't matter to me, and you'd probably end up chasing me all night, but that's not the point. the point is, some men don't know how to deal with women giving them a hard time. some freeze up. some just never developped good social skills because they spent all day reading, getting 4.0GPAs and scholarships, and learning to program. it's these guys specially who these methods are geared for, not the average neanderthal. the average neanderthal won't even take interest in the books/courses/methods, and even if he did, it would probably go WAY over his head. |
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| Silky Johnson |
| quote: | Originally posted by Inertia
so not most. :p
you guys are still not getting it. you said it yourself, "she'll find out you are a loser anyways". so, losers should never get girls? if i were a computer nerd, say i programmed AI for XBOX games, spent the entire day behind a computer looking at code, or playing the games i'm programming, listened to obscure rock bands and had no clue of fashion, even tho i am one of the most loyal friends, extremely intelligent, speak 4 languages, not to mention get paid damn well, i am still socially a "loser". because of this i don't deserve a girl?
these type of systems just explain to men who don't have a clue how to get one. to NOT blab off about that weird flow control error you're getting on the 52nd level of the new Ninja Gaiden game, to try and dress a little better, and how to stand out by being yourself... in a GOOD way.
i've read a bit of the material, and i'm all for it because it is all logical stuff that i think is just interesting towards the study of human behavior/communication.
the emphasis of these methods normally are: to NOT be intimidated by a woman, no matter how hot she is, to NOT let her walk all over you, no matter how hot she is, to NOT spend money on her if there is no real reason to, NOT change your habits or tastes for her unless you want to, and if she tries some , call her on it.
think about it jenny. i mean, i'm sexy as and all, but if i walked up to you in a club and was just all 'hi, i wanna talk', you'd probably give me a hard time and break my balls a bit just for the sake of it. since i'm sexy as , it wouldn't matter to me, and you'd probably end up chasing me all night, but that's not the point. the point is, some men don't know how to deal with women giving them a hard time. some freeze up. some just never developped good social skills because they spent all day reading, getting 4.0GPAs and scholarships, and learning to program. it's these guys specially who these methods are geared for, not the average neanderthal. the average neanderthal won't even take interest in the books/courses/methods, and even if he did, it would probably go WAY over his head. |
Fair enough...but I don't agree that I'd end up chasing you all night, I already have a boyfriend.
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| Inertia |
| quote: | Originally posted by jennypie
Fair enough...but I don't agree that I'd end up chasing you all night, I already have a boyfriend.
:p |
so otherwise, i'd have to run like a zebra being chased by a puma? :toothless |
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| Silky Johnson |
| quote: | Originally posted by Inertia
so otherwise, i'd have to run like a zebra being chased by a puma? :toothless |
Honestly, it would depend. You being sexy as would have very little to do with whatever interest I take in you. |
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| Ivand |
| quote: | Originally posted by Inertia
so not most. :p
you guys are still not getting it. you said it yourself, "she'll find out you are a loser anyways". so, losers should never get girls? if i were a computer nerd, say i programmed AI for XBOX games, spent the entire day behind a computer looking at code, or playing the games i'm programming, listened to obscure rock bands and had no clue of fashion, even tho i am one of the most loyal friends, extremely intelligent, speak 4 languages, not to mention get paid damn well, i am still socially a "loser". because of this i don't deserve a girl?
these type of systems just explain to men who don't have a clue how to get one. to NOT blab off about that weird flow control error you're getting on the 52nd level of the new Ninja Gaiden game, to try and dress a little better, and how to stand out by being yourself... in a GOOD way.
i've read a bit of the material, and i'm all for it because it is all logical stuff that i think is just interesting towards the study of human behavior/communication.
the emphasis of these methods normally are: to NOT be intimidated by a woman, no matter how hot she is, to NOT let her walk all over you, no matter how hot she is, to NOT spend money on her if there is no real reason to, NOT change your habits or tastes for her unless you want to, and if she tries some , call her on it.
think about it jenny. i mean, i'm sexy as and all, but if i walked up to you in a club and was just all 'hi, i wanna talk', you'd probably give me a hard time and break my balls a bit just for the sake of it. since i'm sexy as , it wouldn't matter to me, and you'd probably end up chasing me all night, but that's not the point. the point is, some men don't know how to deal with women giving them a hard time. some freeze up. some just never developped good social skills because they spent all day reading, getting 4.0GPAs and scholarships, and learning to program. it's these guys specially who these methods are geared for, not the average neanderthal. the average neanderthal won't even take interest in the books/courses/methods, and even if he did, it would probably go WAY over his head. |
All those 'geeky' guys get the nice ladies when they're 30 somethings.
A. they get a more 'mature' woman which realizes how much of a great party they are.
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b. get a trophy gold digger wife with fake and tan that cheat on him with the pool guy and have hispanic loking children |
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| Inertia |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ivand
All those 'geeky' guys get the nice ladies when they're 30 somethings.
A. they get a more 'mature' woman which realizes how much of a great party they are.
or
b. get a trophy gold digger wife with fake and tan than cheat on him with the pool guy and have hispanic loking children |
'mature women'. sure... and santa claus leaves me presents at christmas... :p
all joking aside, it would be really hard to find a good woman if you don't know how to interact socially. that's more of an ideal of what SHOULD happen, rather than what actually does. i mean, look at the 40 year old virgin :p |
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| diggerz |
| best thread thus far... |
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| Vlad |
When a woman knows what she wants, picking her up with some line or flashy clothes wont work - because shes been there already. This woman knows what to look for in a genuine man. The easiest way to engage with someone like that, is to just be yourself... yes, you should look clean and dress atleast like you think you know what youre doing, and youll have no problem getting though what pickup artists call "the bitch shield".
Girls that dont know what they want, on the other hand, can be picked up because they dont know any better - they think they are finding someone cool and interesting, when infact theyve just become another number. |
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