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Who Killed Trance? (pg. 17)
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| brian_uhm |
I started listening to trance back in 1993/94. I grew up in a city where techno and house ruled, but you could still find breaks and a little trance. Given my pedigree I was fond of trance/prog/prog house. Fast forward to 1998-2000 and epic blew up big time. This is about the time that I really started to see a lack of quality releases and digression of the music itself. It was more and more watered down and you had sticks like Corsten/Tiesto/AVB/ATB/Darude coming out destroying what was once a good scene and proliferating ty ass music that they pawned off as trance. I am sorry but there was nothing trancey about epic, and the same goes with prog for the most part. There was some influences in them that trance provided, but mainly they were more house than trance. None of the producers themselves are repsonsible for killing trance. They are responsible for affecting the masses and tricking them into thinking they were dancing to trance. So you have the stupid clubbers/candy kids all pilled out not having a clue wtf is up or down. It's a combination between money grubbers and stupid clubbers that gave legitimate trance music a bad name.
Having said that I will say that the only trance that exists right now is psy-trance. Nothing compares to it. I found it rather confusing as to why psy was barely even broached. It is the only legitimate genre of trance that has survived the bull that the EDM global scene has gone through. This is what keeps TRANCE alive. Now don't get me wrong psy-trance has gone through its growing pains as well. It is a very global music that has tried its best to stay in the underground. Unfortunately the ultra lareg festivals have taken the "mainstream" psy-trance to the ter. So it has had to evolve where the progressive-psy and the dark/twisted-psy is where the most innovation is coming from. Yall might not agree, but you have two choices.....go club land or go to whats left of the underground. |
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| M.Johan |
Trance is dead
no
Listhen to the new generation :wtf: |
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| Atmos |
Do you people want Trance to stay the same? No progression, no change, no creativeness, just stay the same? If that's what you want then don't bother following trance these days, because all you end up doing is talking badly about it. Stick to the old , be an old timer, and let the new generation get a chance. You are treating trance as a possession which you wish to manipulate, dont! Treat it as something meant to be...life is about evolution, and for those of you who claim that trance is your life and you love it...let it be and let it evolve.
Btw, I'm speaking to those who do nothing but talk about the trance that comes out these days. I'm speaking to those who can't let it go. And for those who allow the change to happen and accepting it if you like it, I give my upmost respect to you. |
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| Project-K |
| Evolution? Where? |
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| jupiterone |
God damn this discussion is still going on?
I mean it's just easy to say taht all music changes.
I wish 60's rock never changed but it did. Can't do anything about it. Not like Trance is the only music that's in the ter right now. it's all evolution for s sake, stop being in denial and thnking up some hot philosophical explanation for why trance is the way it is now.
It all changes, rock changed, rap changed, everything changes with given time. |
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| Ishkur |
| quote: | Originally posted by Atmos
Do you people want Trance to stay the same? No progression, no change, no creativeness, just stay the same? |
Yes, stupid. That's kind of the point. That's why it's called TRANCE.
You can listen to whatever you want to listen to today. Just don't call it trance. Call it what it really is: euro disney cheese, |
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| dj_bas |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ishkur
Yes, stupid. That's kind of the point. |
And that's why many say it's dying. Boring, cheesy, trance that's been the same for the past 5 or 6 years. Awesome!! |
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| RebeL9 |
| quote: | Originally posted by brian_uhm
I started listening to trance back in 1993/94. I grew up in a city where techno and house ruled, but you could still find breaks and a little trance. Given my pedigree I was fond of trance/prog/prog house. Fast forward to 1998-2000 and epic blew up big time. This is about the time that I really started to see a lack of quality releases and digression of the music itself. It was more and more watered down and you had sticks like Corsten/Tiesto/AVB/ATB/Darude coming out destroying what was once a good scene and proliferating ty ass music that they pawned off as trance. I am sorry but there was nothing trancey about epic, and the same goes with prog for the most part. There was some influences in them that trance provided, but mainly they were more house than trance. None of the producers themselves are repsonsible for killing trance. They are responsible for affecting the masses and tricking them into thinking they were dancing to trance. So you have the stupid clubbers/candy kids all pilled out not having a clue wtf is up or down. It's a combination between money grubbers and stupid clubbers that gave legitimate trance music a bad name.
Having said that I will say that the only trance that exists right now is psy-trance. Nothing compares to it. I found it rather confusing as to why psy was barely even broached. It is the only legitimate genre of trance that has survived the bull that the EDM global scene has gone through. This is what keeps TRANCE alive. Now don't get me wrong psy-trance has gone through its growing pains as well. It is a very global music that has tried its best to stay in the underground. Unfortunately the ultra lareg festivals have taken the "mainstream" psy-trance to the ter. So it has had to evolve where the progressive-psy and the dark/twisted-psy is where the most innovation is coming from. Yall might not agree, but you have two choices.....go club land or go to whats left of the underground. |
we speak the same language my friend :D |
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| Atmos |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ishkur
Yes, stupid. That's kind of the point. That's why it's called TRANCE.
You can listen to whatever you want to listen to today. Just don't call it trance. Call it what it really is: euro disney cheese, |
Who says your perception of TRANCE is the correct one? Trance is basically music which you feel takes you places. Stick with the old "real trance" then and stop wasting your time complaining about this "euro disney cheese" we have today. Your stupidity amazes me. |
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| Project-K |
| quote: | | Originally posted by Atmos Trance is basically music which you feel takes you places. |
That could be anything. It could be justin timberlake's new single. Ish actually knows what he's talking about. You're just talking out of your ass. |
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| brian_uhm |
I am new to this board, but I have seen a lot of talk in this thread that really is quite disturbing. There's talk that many people feel that a few people are to blame for "killing trance". What is so hard to understand that so many people are involved in only degragating a genre of music that, like all other genres, has to grow and evolve from the inside out. Djs/producers are the movers and the shakers more so than the partygoers and the pundits on the boards such as this one. But you all need to understand the relationship that exists between the two, accept it and move on. If you want better music then stop supporting that which you deem to be . If you really want to be proactive then learn how to dj the "trance" you do like. If you really want to make a difference than learn how to make "trance" music that really moves you.
The only other options you are left with is to give up and move onto something else that you can grab ahold of, or do what I did and seek out the next level of trance that applies to you. For me that was goa/psy-trance. Fortunately for me I came into this music when goa was all but an after thought. Personally I prefer the mechanical aspects that you have with psy-trance. It encompasses some many different influences that there really is something for everyone in this genre. I didn't like it at first, but it grew on me especially when everything else went flat.
Also for the person who said that even psy hadn't changed in the past 5-6 years.....you don't have a frigging clue about this genre. I would highly recommend that you educate yourself a little more before you go so far as to say that. Do so if you please, but know now that you are very wrong my friend. |
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