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yankeeBaby
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Originally posted by Xavier Moriarty
lol, i love it how this thread went from cheating to open relationships to ting, pissing and choking the outta people.


I deserve a trophy for my thread. kthxbye.


:toocool: :D
English Rachel
You certainly do my lovely...

Just for you!

DigiNut
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Originally posted by English Rachel
I don't believe in god. Any god. I believe in science, evolution and myself.

Sanctity, whilst it's origins have religious connotations, does not mean 'holy' to me, rather just living life as well as you can with maximum happiness for you and minimal hurt for those you love as well as strangers.

I knew there would be some that rips apart an otherwise informative and deep thread by picking up the actual definition of a word and highlighting it. Never once did I claim that it was morally wrong. Disintegrating moral fiber in society? Perhaps. People's lack of ability to make decisions and stick by them? Absolutely.

I don't think you have the right to enter a thread with your arrogant and attention-seeking manner. In fact, off.

Malek, you too. Pathetic, you both are. Trawling this board, bottom-feeding off whatever you can nit-pick at. Sad really.

At what point did I mention God, or religion, or any of that? It sounds like you're inferring a whole lot of things that simply aren't there. Nor do I seem to recall quoting definitions - my whole point was that the definition is entirely subjective.

You call it a lack of ability to own up to a decision. I call it a different decision to begin with. People make a decision that they aren't exclusively committed to each other. This is conscious, open, and known. In older times it was simply expected.

It's obvious that this subject concerns you at a deeply moral and emotional level but that absolutely does not justify any of the language you've used against myself and Malek, nor does it add anything constructive to the debate.

This isn't your personal echo chamber. Not everybody agrees with you. It's OK to disagree and to be as persistent as you like in that disagreement, but there's no need or use for open hostility and name-calling.
English Rachel
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Originally posted by DigiNut
"Monogamous" relationships before marriage are actually a pretty new concept. As others have pointed out, polygamy was the norm for a very long time, and even several decades ago, when people were "dating" it was expected that they would see other people. Maybe not bang them, but everything else leading up to it.

You may not agree with it but I don't think you have the right to claim that it's morally wrong, or some horrible symptom of disintegrating moral fiber in society.


quote:
Originally posted by malek
there wasn't any "sanctity" to begin with, always been animals, its the religion that tries to invent concepts like "sanctity" and make us guilt trip.


Malek used the word RELIGIOUS.

You said that I don't have the right to claim that it is morally wrong when the only word in the sentence you quoted that could possibly infer that I felt that way was the word 'sanctity' and as I explained, I didn't mean it in a 'morally wrong' or 'religious' way, henceforth the explanation I gave.

Seriously, you post as if you're so clever with your plays on words, well to be honest, you have met your match.

I agree it is a different decision, as you can tell though, your post really pissed me off so I guess that response was clouded with emotion. I still think you are a sad -stirrer with nothing better to do. A real shame since I have considered some of your past posts informative.

I get very frustrated when people try and make out that I have said something that I absolutely haven't. Not once did I say people's decisions were morally wrong (unless you're including the word 'sanctity' but I repeat myself) - dish out incorrect assumptions and get harsh words back. Simple.

As for the personal echo chamber, that is totally rich coming from you. I never expect to agree with people and if you bother to read the whole 8 pages, you will see that despite the fact that I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND IT personally, I am VERY accepting of EVERYONE on this planet. Something you fail to display on a consistent basis.

I don't care if we agree or disagree, just don't misquote or insinuate that i have said something that I absolutely haven't or the same onslaught will ensue.
tatgirl
Whooaaaaahhh!
Everyone take a deep breath!

Agreed, no need for open hostility, and I think a lot is being inferred that isn't there. Rachel, you know I love you, but I stand by my words when I say Diginut & Malek are 2 of the most sound as f*ck guys ever, and the furthest thing from 'bottom feeders'.

Malek's comment has a lot of truth to it, and its a general comment, dunno why you're taking offence to it. And its safe to say that if someone is misunderstanding your stance, isnt there a nicer way to go about setting the record straight without name hurling?

Now everyone get back to the playground and play nice.
Group hug!
tatgirl
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Originally posted by Xavier Moriarty
id rather be in a open relationship than listen to trance.


And I'd rather listen to trance than have sex.
malek
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Originally posted by tatgirl
Group hug!


Naked group hug?:gsmile:
DigiNut
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Originally posted by English Rachel
Malek used the word RELIGIOUS.

You said that I don't have the right to claim that it is morally wrong when the only word in the sentence you quoted that could possibly infer that I felt that way was the word 'sanctity' and as I explained, I didn't mean it in a 'morally wrong' or 'religious' way, henceforth the explanation I gave.

Seriously, you post as if you're so clever with your plays on words, well to be honest, you have met your match.

I agree it is a different decision, as you can tell though, your post really pissed me off so I guess that response was clouded with emotion. I still think you are a sad -stirrer with nothing better to do. A real shame since I have considered some of your past posts informative.

I get very frustrated when people try and make out that I have said something that I absolutely haven't. Not once did I say people's decisions were morally wrong (unless you're including the word 'sanctity' but I repeat myself) - dish out incorrect assumptions and get harsh words back. Simple.

As for the personal echo chamber, that is totally rich coming from you. I never expect to agree with people and if you bother to read the whole 8 pages, you will see that despite the fact that I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND IT personally, I am VERY accepting of EVERYONE on this planet. Something you fail to display on a consistent basis.

I don't care if we agree or disagree, just don't misquote or insinuate that i have said something that I absolutely haven't or the same onslaught will ensue.

I shouldn't even be asking this, but what clever plays on words? What misquoting? What incorrect assumptions? What -stirring? Where are you getting this from? If you're so accepting and I'm so intolerant then why are you the one hurling insults?

Seriously, you've written an entire post essentially dumping on me personally without making a single point relevant to the debate. Met my match? I wasn't aware this was a competition, but if it is, then I don't think we're even playing the same sport!
English Rachel
You really, really upset me by insinuating that I think that Kelly is morally wrong. I think the world of her, she is kind and considerate, has a great sense of humour and is beautiful - for you to hurt me AND potentially hurt her by suggesting I think she is morally wrong is not fair or right.

I will always defend my integrity too, if I thought it was morally wrong, I would at least have the balls to say so.

Needless to say, I am upset on both counts.
Xavier Moriarty
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Originally posted by Xavier Moriarty
lol, i love it how this thread went from cheating to open relationships to ting, pissing and choking the outta people.


and now it turned into arguing with diginut...

please stop it you two, you're making my boner go away.

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And I'd rather listen to trance than have sex.


and i call superultramega bull on you m'lady !!!!!

DigiNut
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Originally posted by English Rachel
You really, really upset me by insinuating that I think that Kelly is morally wrong. I think the world of her, she is kind and considerate, has a great sense of humour and is beautiful - for you to hurt me AND potentially hurt her by suggesting I think she is morally wrong is not fair or right.

I never made this personal. I never made any claim as to what you think of Kelly or anyone else. It was a general discussion about a general issue and you made a comment about sanctity. I wasn't even really focused on that word; I was more interested in the words any more and my reply was mostly about how this behaviour used to be a lot more common than it is now.

Let's set the record straight - I believe, without hesitation, that you think all of the things about Kelly that you mentioned above. I believe that there was not a single point in this discussion where you thought any less of her.

I also believe that you're horrified by the idea of open relationships and swinger couples and are having a lot of trouble reconciling this against your high opinion of your friend(s), which is why, the way I read them, your replies in here are all over the map. They seem to alternate between making value judgments and insisting that you aren't making value judgments but merely trying to understand.

When you say this:
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Is this all because people are at being single and so adapt their version of a relationship to allow single behaviour to take place?

It really doesn't sound like you're trying to understand anything. It sounds a lot more like open hostility. Not directed toward Kelly, I'm sure, but hostility nevertheless.

Maybe in some particular tone of voice with particular body language it all makes a lot more sense - but I'm just not getting it in here.


And Miki, I care about your boner as much as I care about any one of my individual ass hairs.
tatgirl
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Originally posted by Xavier Moriarty
and i call superultramega bull on you m'lady !!!!!


Nope, its damn true!!!
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