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Chicago panoramas and other shots (LOTS) (pg. 17)
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| Abercrombie |
| ya, but she was 13 yrs younger than I |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Abercrombie
ya, but she was 13 yrs younger than I |
Which means she was what? 20? :p |
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| Abercrombie |
| quote: | Originally posted by gehzumteufel
Which means she was what? 20? :p |
I'll take that as a compliment |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Abercrombie
I'll take that as a compliment |
lol |
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| Sarlacc |
| quote: | Originally posted by gehzumteufel
I used both FOV and Depth (yeah I didn't add "of field" to that, but you knew what I meant.) I am quite aware of what both of these things mean.
Also, the RED and Panavision thing. The quote was a listed price for rental of everything you would need for 4 weeks of filming. This was from a price list in New Zealand. No one would divulge the price of the US rental cost. I understand that the optics are not included and really are the most expensive part. That is true for ALL photography and videography.
On the durability aspect, yeah I understand happens, but when you send a prototype out and never have any problems, that goes to show a lot. Peter Jackson used a 2 prototypes exactly like he does with the Panavisions (this is according to him in the wired article) and they held up perfectly. No down time. So while I hear your concerns, you have to take a risk sometimes.
And yes I do see flicker or the "rolling" in theaters at 24fps. It is ing . I hate it so much. I can't really see it at the 30/29.997 with the really good TVs but I see it in the lower end stuff that a LOT of people have. |
The RED has issues. Its a great camera, but even now at build 16 it still takes 80 seconds minimum to boot up. Which is TOOOO long to sit around and wait every time you change a battery or have a malfunction. And this camera does go down...its basically a computer and the software WILL AND DOES glitch, freeze, and crash. I've experienced it, and sometimes you have to reboot multiple times in a row...thats a lot of hanging around waiting. Despite what Peter Jackson may have said in an interview I know what I myself and other colleagues of mine have experienced in the field.
If you see flicker in the theater you should find a higher caliber theater, or perhaps get your eyes checked. Can't help you with that. When you watch your "really good tv" you probably don't know when you are watching 30p or 60i/60p. I also doubt you know when you are watching 24fps created content via film or video. Because it doesnt matter what format your TV is displaying, if the content originated at 24fps, you are still seeing and getting the visual look created by it. |
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| delobbo |
| yeah - what would Peter Jackson know? :P |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sarlacc
The RED has issues. Its a great camera, but even now at build 16 it still takes 80 seconds minimum to boot up. Which is TOOOO long to sit around and wait every time you change a battery or have a malfunction. And this camera does go down...its basically a computer and the software WILL AND DOES glitch, freeze, and crash. I've experienced it, and sometimes you have to reboot multiple times in a row...thats a lot of hanging around waiting. Despite what Peter Jackson may have said in an interview I know what I myself and other colleagues of mine have experienced in the field.
If you see flicker in the theater you should find a higher caliber theater, or perhaps get your eyes checked. Can't help you with that. When you watch your "really good tv" you probably don't know when you are watching 30p or 60i/60p. I also doubt you know when you are watching 24fps created content via film or video. Because it doesnt matter what format your TV is displaying, if the content originated at 24fps, you are still seeing and getting the visual look created by it. |
I am not saying that the camera is without its problems. The "no problems" I assume is just a purveyor of "no mechanical problems despite its software glitches" that results in no videography problems that degrade the quality.
Also, if I am correct in the info I am aware of, most video is converted (for lack of a better term. I don't know the technical term for that) to 29.997 fps upon mastering for DVD. The "low-end" tvs I usually see it on are the 60hz LCDs. I saw this flicker in CRT and LCD monitors. I see it on my own too. I hate it. |
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| Sarlacc |
| quote: | Originally posted by gehzumteufel
I am not saying that the camera is without its problems. The "no problems" I assume is just a purveyor of "no mechanical problems despite its software glitches" that results in no videography problems that degrade the quality.
Also, if I am correct in the info I am aware of, most video is converted (for lack of a better term. I don't know the technical term for that) to 29.997 fps upon mastering for DVD. The "low-end" tvs I usually see it on are the 60hz LCDs. I saw this flicker in CRT and LCD monitors. I see it on my own too. I hate it. |
As I said, the video is outputted for viewing on whatever format it needs. But the original timeline it was shot on (24fps) still retains the look it originally gave the movie. Its different than literally changing the original timeline of the piece.
Harder to explain than to understand once you get it. |
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| delobbo |
just a few updates.
click to view larger.
Chicago River, Sept 06 2008, 2:20AM.
28 shots, full-size is 65 megapixels.
going home, just got in a cab
20-shot pano taken during a period of 4 minutes, hand-held in -1° F weather (with a -21° wind chill). It was the coldest I've ever shot in; towards the end the shutter release button (I am assuming it was the button and not something else) started getting stuck and it was firing off successively until the buffer ran out. Annoying.
I had gloves on but by the end (shot for about 5 more minutes after this sequence) my fingertips felt like they were frozen. Damn this is cold. Tomorrow night it's supposed to hit -14°. :(
Not sure what the sky is doing but that's how it looked.
The full-size is around 85 megapixels. I wanted a purplish tinge.
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| Dervish |
Possibly the coolest pic I have ever seen. |
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| Sushipunk |
| Delobbo, that third one is ing gorgeous. Which lens do you use again? 16-35 L or 24-105 L? |
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| delobbo |
hey bud that was with the 24-70 2.8.
and, along with the tangent of this thread, here is the best footage of Vegas' snow you'll ever see.. taken with a 5DMK2.
http://www.vimeo.com/2581629 |
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