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Border Patrol tased local pastor (pg. 10)
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| Zild |
| quote: | Originally posted by weymouth
It's O.K. if it gives you a sense of personal achievement to stand up to authority then go right ahead and be a man. I'll be secure enough in my own self to know who I am instead of picking fights to inflate my ego. |
i'm sorry but the only thing you really have to do is identify yourself to an officer... it isn't my fault that when I choose to uphold my right to keep my mouth shut they try to violate the law and force me into doing something I'm not required to. I don't pick fights but they don't like it when you don't cooperate even though it is your right not to. |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
i'm sorry but the only thing you really have to do is identify yourself to an officer... it isn't my fault that when I choose to uphold my right to keep my mouth shut they try to violate the law and force me into doing something I'm not required to. I don't pick fights but they don't like it when you don't cooperate even though it is your right not to. |
He thinks it's okay for anyone of authority, including his boss at work, to just walk into his house and search his place. He has nothing to hide, so why not?
ugh ing people. |
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| Zild |
| It has almost gotten to the point where people are so ing ridiculous that officers/agents are starting to use a refusal to search as probable cause because they deem it suspicious behavior. |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
It has almost gotten to the point where people are so ing ridiculous that officers/agents are starting to use a refusal to search as probable cause because they deem it suspicious behavior. |
Yeah I know. Which is stupid. I have challenged searches too, but then they are like, "Well if you have nothing to hide, then why are you refusing?" People are such ing sheep, and just don't want to cause a scene, even if they have no need to submit to a search. |
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| Zild |
| quote: | Originally posted by gehzumteufel
Yeah I know. Which is stupid. I have challenged searches too, but then they are like, "Well if you have nothing to hide, then why are you refusing?" People are such ing sheep, and just don't want to cause a scene, even if they have no need to submit to a search. |
I usually don't talk to them just ID myself and keep my mouth shut, but when I have I tell them because it is my right to go on about my business without being subjected to an illegal search and seizure under the 4th amendment of the constitution of the united states of america. They really don't like that one.
Basically if they have to ask to search they don't have probable cause and if they don't have probable cause then you aren't required to consent. |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
I usually don't talk to them just ID myself and keep my mouth shut, but when I have I tell them because it is my right to go on about my business without being subjected to an illegal search and seizure under the 4th amendment of the constitution of the united states of america. They really don't like that one.
Basically if they have to ask to search they don't have probable cause and if they don't have probable cause then you aren't required to consent. |
Yeah I am aware. It just ing blows that they use that as "probable cause" now. Which I have experienced myself. |
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| Zild |
They can try that on me but it won't work. I tell them if they had probable cause they wouldn't have had to ask. Therefore me declining their request doesn't create any probable cause.
Oh yea the scent of marijuana is not ground for probable cause. At least not in the cases I've worked on. |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
Oh yea the scent of marijuana is not ground for probable cause. At least not in the cases I've worked on. |
I have heard this too. |
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| Zild |
| Officers are trained to violate citizens rights and lie to them as much as possible. When you waive your rights it really isn't a crime for them to do it either because you gave that up. |
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| Krypton |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
been to jail a bunch of times the smile on my face when they dismiss my case makes it all worth it
i've had my ass kicked for refusing to talk to officers/agents its cool i'm not a bitch
i love the look on the state attorney's face when he realizes i have him ed and he has to file a motion to dismiss my case |
What were the circumstances? |
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| Zild |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
What were the circumstances? |
i've been arrested almost 10 times i really don't have the time to get into the details lol
pick one story i can do that but not all of them i can't even remember all of them |
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| weymouth |
| quote: | Originally posted by gehzumteufel
I will say this again.
YES, BECAUSE THE GESTAPO WAS A CONSPIRACY THEORY. man, are you this god damn dense? |
The story was in the U.S. not Nazi Germany. If you think that the law enforcement in the U.S. is the equivalent to Germany during the Third Reich then you are out of touch with reality. |
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