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Border Patrol tased local pastor
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| digitalbreach |
Ran into this story earlier today.
Pastor was stopped at checkpoint in AZ and was tased after failure to follow orders. Was not arrested for any specific crime.
http://freedomsphoenix.com/Feature-...tm?Info=0056971
I'm sure he's suing the pants off the govt. |
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| Krypton |
I went through a border patrol checkpoint in New Mexico last Friday. The guy asked me several questions which I should have not answered.
Are you an American citizen? (Ok to answer)
Where are you going? (Should not have answered)
Where are you from? (Should not have answered) |
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| gehzumteufel |
This guy, while I feel for his reasoning, was ing dumb. If a trained drug dog smells, or thinks he/she smells drugs, that is probable cause. He should never have resisted. He was a dumb for resisting.
Also, this guy is a douchebag. He proceeds to treat all officers like a piece of . While I hate police, I don't ing antagonize them either. |
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| Zild |
them they've detained my ass so many times it isn't funny
hello mr. cavazos how are you today?
third time you've come through the checkpoint today... where are the drugs at?
traitors to their own people all of them
i always ask them if their grandmother knows what they're doing to their own people and if she's proud to have a traitor as a grandchild |
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| Brian Scott |
| quote: | Originally posted by gehzumteufel
This guy, while I feel for his reasoning, was ing dumb. If a trained drug dog smells, or thinks he/she smells drugs, that is probably cause. He should never have resisted. He was a dumb for resisting.
Also, this guy is a douchebag. He proceeds to treat all officers like a piece of . While I hate police, I don't ing antagonize them either. |
I agree to a certain extent. We do not have access to video evidence of the dog barking or not barking @ the pastor's car. So we really don't know what set the cops off to begin with. That's a major piece of the puzzle which happens to be missing. |
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| Theresa |
It's the guys own fault. He wouldn't answer their questions, he wouldn't get out of the car when they asked him to, and then he acted like a douche by pulling out the camera and antagonizing them. How do they know he isn't trying to buy time so a bomb can go off, or that he isn't intending on pulling out a weapon and trying to kill one of them?
I don't agree with them beating the out of him, but I don't blame them for forcefully getting him out of the vehicle. They should have just arrested him and tossed him into jail. The beating was overboard IMO. |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Brian Scott
I agree to a certain extent. We do not have access to video evidence of the dog barking or not barking @ the pastor's car. So we really don't know what set the cops off to begin with. That's a major piece of the puzzle which happens to be missing. |
Agreed, but even if we did, we aren't trained in this . You leave that to the professionals.
They used excessive force for sure, but the guy just needs to shut the up. |
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| Zild |
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
It's the guys own fault. He wouldn't answer their questions, he wouldn't get out of the car when they asked him to, and then he acted like a douche by pulling out the camera and antagonizing them. How do they know he isn't trying to buy time so a bomb can go off, or that he isn't intending on pulling out a weapon and trying to kill one of them?
I don't agree with them beating the out of him, but I don't blame them for forcefully getting him out of the vehicle. They should have just arrested him and tossed him into jail. The beating was overboard IMO. |
all i hear is a sheep making a lot of baaaaaahhhh sounds
sheep the whole lot of you s |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
It's the guys own fault. He wouldn't answer their questions, he wouldn't get out of the car when they asked him to, and then he acted like a douche by pulling out the camera and antagonizing them. How do they know he isn't trying to buy time so a bomb can go off, or that he isn't intending on pulling out a weapon and trying to kill one of them?
I don't agree with them beating the out of him, but I don't blame them for forcefully getting him out of the vehicle. They should have just arrested him and tossed him into jail. The beating was overboard IMO. |
The camera was not antagonizing. The way he was acting was. Cops here are fully aware of the citizens rights to film them in almost any situation without the legal worry of being arrested. Do people still get arrested and never charged though? Yes. |
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| Zild |
| i wouldn't hesitate to leave a cbp face down taking a dirt nap if i ever caught one out in the monte |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
all i hear is a sheep making a lot of baaaaaahhhh sounds
sheep the whole lot of you s |
I have been in situations where I should refuse to answer the questions, but financially it made no sense. My car was out of registration and they could have impounded. |
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| Zild |
its different for you though you're white and your friends aren't coyotes
and i'm sure your best friends brother isn't in prison right now for getting rolled over on by a corrupt CBP agent |
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