Originally posted by Neo95gt
Why the hell is Cielo closing down for a few weeks? How retarded. Sounds like NY looking for some extra cash, really really weak.
Cash from fines < NYC's cut of sales taxes on drinks, income tax from employees, etc.
PaulyB
Doesn't matter if it's more or not.
You forget there is a specific task force that is in place now that wasn't in the 70s / 80s / 90s. A team of a men and women who's job is to do nothing else other than with nightlife. Remember, this department has a quota they must meet in order to fund their salary.
AY STAR
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Originally posted by PaulyB
department has a quota they must meet in order to fund their salary.
sorry to go off topic
but what you said totally reminded me of this scene
:haha:
denys envy
the only thing I'm afraid of is that the trash that used to frequent Pacha will now overrun Cielo/Sullivan Room and the like. after a while it'll be a string of club closures because these s have nowhere else to go.
hellosam
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Originally posted by PaulyB
Doesn't matter if it's more or not.
You forget there is a specific task force that is in place now that wasn't in the 70s / 80s / 90s. A team of a men and women who's job is to do nothing else other than with nightlife. Remember, this department has a quota they must meet in order to fund their salary.
I actually never knew that...I knew they had people doing this- but not that there is a SPECIFIC forse doing JUST this and has quotas....interesting.
PaulyB
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Originally posted by hellosam
I actually never knew that...I knew they had people doing this- but not that there is a SPECIFIC forse doing JUST this and has quotas....interesting.
The Club Enforcement Initiative was created by the NYPD in response to what it referred to as "a series of high-profile and violent crimes against people who visited city nightclubs this year", mentioning the July 27 rape and murder of Jennifer Moore. One article discussed the dangers of police work and undercover investigations.[20] Bloomberg had met with Commissioner Kelly and community leaders to discuss how undercover police had shot Sean Bell and two of his friends as they had celebrated his last night as a bachelor outside of the Kalua Cabaret strip club in Queens, N.Y.[21] Bell, who was unarmed, was set to marry his high-school sweetheart and the mother of his two young daughters later that day.[21]
The Club Enforcement Initiative was later mentioned in an article discussing the impact and changes in nightlife, and discussed the death of Bell, along with mention of St. Guillen and Moore.[22]
It was reported that Chelsea residents were grateful for the increased police presence.[23]
The Club Enforcement Unit also tried to close another club named Stereo, after a patron was shot; and mention was made that "Police alleged that (clubs) Stereo, Crobar, Home and Sol were serving alcohol to minors and failing to prevent drug abuse and fights".[24]
hellosam
per your wiki link:
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Required buying of liquor
Democratic Queens Councilwoman, Melinda Katz, started drafting legislation on drinking, outlawing the practice of nightclubs that required patrons to purchase bottles of alcohol to guarantee seating. Eight out of 12 clubs in and around Chelsea surveyed by Katz's staff imposed the "bottle service" requirement. One of those was the club where Jennifer Moore had last been seen.[45]
i wonder if this will pass and how that will effect VIP- i would assume that would make places like pacha get rid of VIP? or i suppose just an extra fee in general to be up there, with no requirement of liquor....right?
PaulyB
That will never pass.
Guest
all I know is I went to Pacha once and it was god awful
noskizza
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Originally posted by AY STAR
sorry to go off topic
but what you said totally reminded me of this scene
:haha:
hahahahaha that little kid knows a thing or two.
DJ Eco
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Originally posted by hellosam
per your wiki link:
i wonder if this will pass and how that will effect VIP- i would assume that would make places like pacha get rid of VIP? or i suppose just an extra fee in general to be up there, with no requirement of liquor....right?
Nah, it won't affect Pacha at all... There's clubs that won't let you in unless you buy a bottle (4-500$). Thus, going there and being sober is not an option, which I think this councilwoman is trying to get at.
Of course the argument can be raised that we all have a CHOICE of which clubs to go; we can just NOT go to that club. But yeah, that's another discussion. I'm sure she's also targeting clubs like that with a hugely lax door policy on underage girls. If someone goes there and drops 800$ on bottles, they pretty much allow any girls with them in, no questions asked.
Friends of mine (girls) had been going to clubs like Bungalow 8, 1 Oak, Bed, Duvet, at the age of 16-18, just because they can. Sometimes I got in with them, simply cos I was going in with them, it's a crazy thing... Money (and sexy jailbait tail) talks...
cl0wnz0r
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Originally posted by DJ Eco
Nah, it won't affect Pacha at all... There's clubs that won't let you in unless you buy a bottle (4-500$). Thus, going there and being sober is not an option, which I think this councilwoman is trying to get at.
Of course the argument can be raised that we all have a CHOICE of which clubs to go; we can just NOT go to that club. But yeah, that's another discussion. I'm sure she's also targeting clubs like that with a hugely lax door policy on underage girls. If someone goes there and drops 800$ on bottles, they pretty much allow any girls with them in, no questions asked.
Friends of mine (girls) had been going to clubs like Bungalow 8, 1 Oak, Bed, Duvet, at the age of 16-18, just because they can. Sometimes I got in with them, simply cos I was going in with them, it's a crazy thing... Money (and sexy jailbait tail) talks...
pacha is strict on bottle service, so you are right that it won't affect them in the slightest. they ran my id through the machine in the bottle service line even. 3 months short so they told me to get back to the general admission line.
