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One week with no alcohol (pg. 9)
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| wotyzoid |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
If quitting drink for any period is a big deal to you, you already have a problem. |
Pretty much. I drink almost weekly, specially in the summer, but I can go on without drinking for months if I wanted to without any problem. I enjoy it, but it's not essential for me to have a good time. I feel bad for you guys that have alcohol as a crutch in your lives. |
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| Silky Johnson |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sunsnail
it is a bit strange. then again i think american gas stations are quite different (at least from the ones ive seen in europe)
make more money selling soda than gas |
More glory holes. |
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| Slylee |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
That's not "for any length of time". When you gamble for a while you get into a mindset. There's a pattern of success and failure in your head, and because you lose a lot more often than you win, when you strike big you've probably not made enough profit to walk away satisfied. |
yea i know how it works.
my point is, you either got it or you don't (the gambling mentality) and i definitely don't have it and never will.
i work hard for my money and if i'm going to be putting it into something (could be anything from food at the grocery store to buying a pill of ecstasy), i need to be guaranteed something in return (a good time w/ the pill, food on the table, etc...) there is always that risk that you're gonna lose it all when you gamble. in my mind, i WILL lose it. i don't ever have that mentality like, "ooh maybe i can double it". it's more like, "yea right, i'm not about to lose this $20 in one minute to a ing slot machine". |
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| Silky Johnson |
| Gambling is an impulse control disorder. |
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| Slylee |
but then how does it work if you don't have the gambling thing going on, but you do coke every weekend?
i guess it's there no matter what (the impulse control thing) and you just pick your vice of preference?
*edit* oh wait nevermind, i guess drug addictions are more physical than "impulse control". just thought of that. |
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| Sunsnail |
drugs release chemicals in the brain. gambling does the same.
or am i wrong |
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| Arbiter |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
That's not "for any length of time". When you gamble for a while you get into a mindset. There's a pattern of success and failure in your head, and because you lose a lot more often than you win, when you strike big you've probably not made enough profit to walk away satisfied. |
Okay, but, since you know--for a fact--that the odds are against you, shouldn't seeing that pattern, and knowing the very great likelihood that it will continue, motivate you to STOP gambling, not to CONTINUE?
I can't really attest to what it feels like after gambling for any length of time, since I've always gotten sick of it way too fast for that, but I really can't understand the mindset of someone who plays a rigged game and thinks the solution to losing is to play more... |
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| Silky Johnson |
| quote: | Originally posted by Slylee
*edit* oh wait nevermind, i guess drug addictions are more physical than "impulse control". just thought of that. |
Heh, bingo. :)
Impulse control disorders "are characterized by an inability to resist an impulse or temptation to complete and activity that is considered harmful to self or others, an increase in tension before the individual commits the act, and excitement or gratification at the time the act is committed. The release of tension is perceived as pleasurable, bt remorse and regret usually follows." |
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| Slylee |
| quote: | Originally posted by Arbiter
Okay, but, since you know--for a fact--that the odds are against you, shouldn't seeing that pattern, and knowing the very great likelihood that it will continue, motivate you to STOP gambling, not to CONTINUE?
I can't really attest to what it feels like after gambling for any length of time, since I've always gotten sick of it way too fast for that, but I really can't understand the mindset of someone who plays a rigged game and thinks the solution to losing is to play more... |
exactly. an idiot would have that mindset. and coming from me, that should say a lot. :toothless |
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| Slylee |
| quote: | Originally posted by jennypie
Heh, bingo. :)
Impulse control disorders "are characterized by an inability to resist an impulse or temptation to complete and activity that is considered harmful to self or others, an increase in tension before the individual commits the act, and excitement or gratification at the time the act is committed. The release of tension is perceived as pleasurable, bt remorse and regret usually follows." |
actually you're right. i was having a discussion about gambling with my boss yesterday and she was telling me about a lady she knows with a gambling problem and the lady is supposedly banned from the local casino but she still goes there and plays. they sort of let her play still, but she isn't allowed to collect any money and she still ing plays:stongue: |
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| Silky Johnson |
My friend's old room mate has a gambling problem...and for the past 6 months he had been squandering all their rent money on poker. Last month he disappeared for a few days, only returning once...to leave his goodbye notes for the people in his life.
My friend had discovered he was having problems back in June, when she found a card for CAMH (Canadian Association for Mental Health) on their fridge, and learned that he had been in rehab.
Then for the rest of the month his behavior became increasingly bizarre. He was showing their apartment to new potential tenants, and when she (my friend) would ask if he was planning on moving, he would tell her he wanted to move to another unit in their building.
Well it turns out he was taking deposits from all the people he showed their place to, and using the money for gambling. When he disappeard last month, he left a bunch of manilla envelopes on his dresser, addressed to people like his mom, dad, best friend, etc. Each envelope had personal stuff in it like pics, memories, personal effects, etc.
My friend told me about all this and I knew right away he was planning on killing himself. All of his behaviours were text book. She wouldn't look in the envelopes so I did. I opened one of the letters, and it was addressed to his ex. It was dated twice, once in February, and once the day he disappeared. The February date he was apologizing for the he'd done, and said he was on a plane to Vegas and wouldn't be coming back...which he obviously did.
The June date his writing was much more cryptic, but it was so obvious he was going to kill himself. Just saying stuff like how sorry he was to put everyone through all this, and saying goodbye and all this . At this point he had been missing for almost a week.
Anyhow...it turned out that same day the July letters were addressed, he was arrested and thrown in jail. 7 lawsuits laid against him for fraud, theft, and all kinds of . The money he took from people for the apartment was over ten thousand dollars. Not to mention all the people he ripped off for other . He most likely owed people money in Vegas as well.
I'd probably want to kill myself too, lol.
edit: I forgot to mention that my friend had been evicted from her apartment and didn't even know it...due to her room mate not having paid their rent for the past however many months. Everything pretty much surfaced at once, and by the time she learned what the was going on it was too late. So yeah she got ed over for quite a few hundred dollars by this guy too. She had to move out a week after she found this all out. But she kept all his , lol. And he had really beautiful furniture. :D |
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| Slylee |
jesus!
i can't ing understand it lol why! get a goddamn grip.
i hate to say it (because i know it shows that i'm probably ignorant on the subject matter) but i really have a tough time sympathizing with people who have addictions and behave like that.
i myself have an addictive personality and i definitely had my party binge days but i was smart enough to realize that it wasn't gonna get me far and i basically just had a great time for a few years and then completely switched sides. i still dabble in it and i'll roll once in a while but i mean i hear stories like this and i just think, "wow what a ing loser". and also, people who pawn or lose jobs to drugs/partying need to get a grip too.
it's something that is completely within your control because it's decison making and free will-related. it's not ing cancer. i dunno, to me it's different and i will never understand and will always have a hard time with people like that. |
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