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Thinking about doing some martial arts training (pg. 10)
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| drivingforce |
| quote: | Originally posted by Scottaculous
The idea behind repetition and practice is to drill the movement into your head so much, you don't even think about it. |
Muscle memory. The actions become so ingrained in you that it becomes a thoughtless action and just happens. |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| quote: | Originally posted by jennypie
Sort of on topic....I read an interesting article that tested "natural ability" vs. practice, and at the end of a certain number of (thousands of) hours, the people with natural ability were no better than those who put in the same amount of practice.
Point being, practice DOES make perfect. |
Interesting, but what was the standard to which people were compared? As was already pointed out, there is a ing gulf of difference between an actual fight and sparring/competition. In my teaching experience, people (mostly kids) who demonstrated what people supposed to be a "natural talent" or whatnot were always very good at demonstrations and sparring - really, the sport aspects. But how somebody handles themselves in an actual fight can be very, very different. The inborn ability to rip somebody's head off can be a very natural proclivity for some people, and most certainly not for others - training and experience can make a very noticeable difference, yes, but I am skeptical of violence being something that can be trained; conditioned, yes, but some people have it and some people don't - the latter not being a part of your study for obvious reasons. |
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| Silky Johnson |
| I don't remember, to be honest. I do know it was tested across a few different fields like music, science, and sport. |
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| Slylee |
| i'm the most non violent person ever. can barely watch that UFC , but i've been in some situations before where my adrenaline was to the roof and i was about to go ape on someone. like that time that ghetto bitch started with me at marshall's. lol i know i'm little and everyone would laugh at the idea of me doing some damage, but i'm completely confident that i could, if push came to shove. |
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| lenazi |
do it to get in shape, not to be a better fighter. You will be a better fighter if you take muai thai and bjj, but a smart guy doesn't put himself in situations that he has to defend himself;)
sure it can happen, but like i said do it because it is really fun, and will make you healthier before doing it because you want to crack some skulls. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
Someone who is very well-trained can come out okay simply by being a lot quicker and more powerful, but I think the emotional aspect of being in a real fight is much harder to train except by actually getting in fights where the intent is to hurt. I am fast and can hit hard simply because I am athletic, but I am pretty much a wuss when it comes to the emotional part because I have hardly been in any fights, so I would probably suck at real fighting.
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| Scottaculous |
| I've been training for 6 years but never been in a fight. For all I know, I totally suck and should quit wasting my time. It does, however, impress my girlfriend. :) |
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| Slylee |
| i've always told myself that my secret move would be to head butt someone. i've got a ing boulder for a noggen and can take pretty hard blows to the head without it hurting too bad. lol |
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| lenazi |
reaction time and strength can be improved through training.
a lot of people who get confronted freeze up, this will not happen if you train to fight. The emotion part gets tossed to the side, because through the repetition of training striking/defense will become 2nd nature.
I'm not saying the guy won't be pumped up here, but he is way more likely to go for a quick finish, than being one of those idiots that gets into a fight and runs his mouth more than his fists.
we have all seen those morons with "come on, hit me, come on i'll give you the first punch." (aka these guys are ALWAYS scared, emotional and do not know what to do.) A guy who trains in fighting will always know to hit first and try to end it quick before ripping off his shirt like hulk hogan with tears streaming down his face while making a spectacle of himself:p |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| quote: | Originally posted by lenazi
do it to get in shape, not to be a better fighter. You will be a better fighter if you take muai thai and bjj, but a smart guy doesn't put himself in situations that he has to defend himself;)
sure it can happen, but like i said do it because it is really fun, and will make you healthier before doing it because you want to crack some skulls. |
Precisely. This is totally some hackneyed line, but truly, the first step towards defending yourself is being smart enough to not get in a ing fight in the first place. We were always told to tell people that in a fight, one person goes to jail and the other goes to the hospital. Can't say I've ever seen anything different, really. |
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| lenazi |
| so many funny stories start with "i had no choice, i got jumped at closing time at a bar because i was drunk and alone"...when it should be "it is my fault for being in a place drunk and alone and this could have been avoided.". |
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| lenazi |
| quote: | Originally posted by SuspicionVandit
If you're looking to get into shape or have an interest in competition, I'd suggest Jiu Jitsu. You can compete over the weekend and still be in a healthy state to work the 9-5 during the week.
But if you're looking for the best self defense against Queens NY after hours, go with Krav Maga. JJ and Muay Thai has no specialized techniques against 2x4s, knives, machetes, handguns, assault rifles, moving vehicles, plasma shields, Gouki fireballs, blackmail, Shōtarō Kaneda, etc. |
the problem is that krav maga is specialized military training to be used in kill or be killed situations. You HAVE to use these techniques because in war, you will be killed.
on the street if someone pulls a gun and asks for money, even if you know krav maga and you think you could kick the guys ass, you should still give up your wallet, get the situation over with as quickly as possible by complying to demands instead of risking your life over a few bucks.
While all of the disciplines frequently used in several mma training programs, yes there are less techniques used against weapon attacks (which is still arguable because you can still defend and strike, just less in the counterweight/balance structure of krav, judo and akido for instance) but the intensive training will make you a physically healthier person. Krav does not really involve this type of training, mostly theory. |
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