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I'm getting a Nord 2!!!!!!! =] =] =] (pg. 12)
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| msz |
| i love this guy domesticated, he contributes NOTHING to this subform AT ALL. but comes only to bash this guy, mod? |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
What I said is you couldn't replicate 1 of THOSE 10 samples I submitted. Thats how confident I am that you can't do it. They would be 10 sounds that have a very obvious virus character, many virus sounds have that character, and no software can recreate it. If you don't believe me, again, 1 out of 10. |
I would like to try this. For the challenge mainly, not because I think the Virus sucks or have an urge to prove you wrong. |
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| DjStephenWiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fledz
It doesn't need to be written, it's something you find out yourself. When I decided to buy my Dyns, do you think I looked at all the options for audio interfaces and made sure I had the right cabling and that everything could theoretically work before I even confirmed my order? Of course I did.
Same thing applies here. Logic would dictate that you have everything planned out before buying something. |
Well he did do the research, so you can't knock him for that. He came on here with questions and concerns. Once he learned that a new audioface was needed, he probably started having second doubts. I've chatted with Robbie a handful of times on AOLAIM and he's not as obnoxious on here as you might think. And one thing that really surprises me is he was adamant about having me send him my banks of Virus Sounds. (They are just straight recordings from the presets) and he went on about how he likes the Virus and wish he had one.
That is why I brought up the Snow and the connectivity issue. Being somebody new to hardware myself, I just wanted to help him and hopefully I did. I'm 99% certain he is going to be happy with his Virus. And if he's not, the snow's sell for nearly just as new price (they rarely even pop up on ebay ) so he's not going to take some huge hit or something. I guarantee he's going to learn a lot about synth and sound engineering with the Virus. He's going to appreciate the mobility, the non-CPU usage, the synth itself, and the support that Access Music continues to deliver time and time again.
It will be a long time before I buy another synth, and it wouldn't surprise me at all if all synth companies start implenting some form of control via usb so people don't have to have an audio interface. I'll bet some already exist even.
Anyway, this thread has derailed bad. Paging Dr. Diginut?!
I think some of the things that most in this thread have said are completely uncalled for. And those who continue to antagonize one another are just as guilty for the flame it generates which just adds more fuel to the fire.
What I want to know, and still havn't gotten an answer, is why do you professionals out there think a synth like the Virus TI snow is not great for Robbie? Considering he would have to get a new audio interface for the 2X, he would likely end up paying the same amount for the 2x and the snow. With Robbie being new to synths and not even understanding audio interface concepts how in the world am I the only person to tell him to get a Virus (100 times)
I get the sense here that people have egos, and that by telling somebody to get a Virus it's going to harm their egos. That's a bunch of bull. I'm still waiting for my answer. What should he have gotten? And don't tell me some bull answer like "nothing" - The guy wants hardware, he doesn't know anything about hardware, and he's obviously made the decision that he's going to use online resources instead of going to a local guitar center (if there even is one) and hoping they have a demo out of a 2x or a virus.
Put your money where your mouth is guys. What should he have bought? He likes to make trance, he is just learning how hardware even interfaces, has clearly identified a budget. He obviously is going to want something user friendly based on his previous posts on this board and what could be more friendly than a Virus TI for somebody in his situations?? Please, enlighten me. Enlighten all of us actually. I am eagerly awaiting some responses to this question. |
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| RichieV |
for the fifth time.
nobody has a problem with the synth. It is his ego and ignorance people are calling into question. And to answer your question regarding what I would of bought ? A nord G2. |
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| Ry Thomas |
| saying it pisses all over software was a very naive and destructive comment, especially after hardly any use or knowledge of the synth, people think a TI is gonna make their tracks better, it wont. |
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| Waza |
Ok this is all fun and games reading this but come on what happened to our MOD....
I would suggest stop bitching at each other and just put your money where your mouth is and do a preset comp off.
This would be funny. |
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| DjStephenWiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by RichieV
for the fifth time.
nobody has a problem with the synth. It is his ego and ignorance people are calling into question. And to answer your question regarding what I would of bought ? A nord G2. |
No - The question is what would you have suggested he bought. Doesn't have anything to do with what you would have bought because you're in a completely different position. He's a very transparent person and lets people know what he was thinking (which sometimes does ruffle some feathers) - Regardless, No need to bait him. If he thinks the Virus is the end-all-be then let him believe that. It's all subjective anyway. He's excited. He just got his first piece of hardware and he got a really nice piece.
So again, just to be clear, considering his circumstances which you know, you would have recommended to him to buy a nord g2? midi dumps and sysex jumps will be dinosaur crap before you know it. there is no need for him to begin with something like that. Of course he needs to learn interfacing of synths that are not USB fueled, but he doesn't need one as his first synthesizer. Just my opinion. I'll bet he's very happy he took my advice. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| Is it really so hard for people to learn how to interface a non-USB synth with their computer? Compared to learning how to program the synth itself in depth, hooking it up to your computer is a piece of cake... |
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| Existo22 |
| quote: | Originally posted by palm
if this threads gets modded by its current state im gonna leave here, theres nothing more here to me if discussion isnt allowed. please let this thread be modded so i can leave lol. |
Congrats on your new synth :)
Hope it helps you with your production. |
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| DjStephenWiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Is it really so hard for people to learn how to interface a non-USB synth with their computer? Compared to learning how to program the synth itself in depth, hooking it up to your computer is a piece of cake... |
It is....but it's not if you've never done it before and don't understand how synths are interfaced. EVERYBODY learned one way or another how interfacing was done. Wether it was on their own, explained to them, they saw friends doing it, etc. Now once he would have gotten the manual (but he hadn't bought it yet) it would have told him what he needed, but he couldn't get that information, so he asked. There is no such thing as a dumb question. I've seen far worse, myself included, on this forum. |
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| Existo22 |
:wtf:
Hehe sorry somehow I thought it was you who started the thread. :wtf:
Anywayz robby I hope you like your new synth :D |
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| Existo22 |
| quote: | Originally posted by DjStephenWiley
Put your money where your mouth is guys. What should he have bought? He likes to make trance, he is just learning how hardware even interfaces, has clearly identified a budget. He obviously is going to want something user friendly based on his previous posts on this board and what could be more friendly than a Virus TI for somebody in his situations?? Please, enlighten me. Enlighten all of us actually. I am eagerly awaiting some responses to this question. |
Hi :) Well.. If you want my N.B.S.H.O. I think something like a little phatty and a jv 1080 would have been better startoff synths. The LP sells for $700 used and is true analog. meaning that the sum cost of the material resources that go in each box is of greater monetary value than those of digital synths. No digi or soft synth can make the sounds this thing can make. The oscilators the filter the adsr are all analog. It would cost him a few hundred if he wanted to clone it coz it is not only analog but some of the components are discrete its not all i.c.
The virus on the other hand is an all digital synth. The sum cost of material resources that go into this box is nothing to right home about ''Shhhhh  I am trying to sell these ;) great $$$ to be made'' but it is still a synth that has been used for many trance classics and while many people feel it is all topping n no cake if the 90's digital fx overload virus sound is something you crave you can do a lot worse than pick one up. I used to own one... and trust me many classics have been made with this synth
Listen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=torS...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHA6qjvuoqY
The roland Jv series are industry standard for realistic sounds and have been used for countless platinum selling records. Best of all they can be found for 200 used. You can tell how much effort was put in these boxes they ooze with quality.
So the simpler and better sounding moog LP, a roland jv 1080 or jv2080 and a wee mixer would have been better start off synths and a lot more value used for $1000 but since he has already bought the virus synth I just wished him luck and congratulated him on the purchase. Stephen in all honesty when you are learning the ropes of production, sound design and mixing yourself don't come here with an attitude like ''what the why isn't the whole world telling him to get the super awesome great virus synth coz you just gonna look silly :p no pun intended hehe
Like I said Robby congrats on your new synth and I hope it makes your music sound better :) |
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