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| Banora |
I dunno, I've never been insured while living in the US. As a kid I used to get strep about three or four times a year, but had to deal with it because going to a doctor was out of the question.
I really need to go to a doctor and get my heart checked out... I've been having these very sharp, acute, stabbing pains on the left side of my chest every now and then, and I'll feel my heart make irregular beats sometimes. However (this has only happened in the past year a few times) I'll feel my heart beat, then this sensation of blood rushing back into my heart and I'll get very dizzy. What is it? if I know, and going to a doctor/specialist to find out won't do me much good when I am living on the streets in a cardboard box trying to pay the hospital bill.
I guess I'm a bit jaded about health care. In 2006 I was drugged at a party and my heart stopped. One ambulance ride later, ER visit, and 4 hour stay in ICU my bill was in the $10,000's, not counting 'other' bills and charges I somehow racked up while unconscious, then the suicide counseling service that was forced on me despite me stating over and over again I was drugged, I didn't try to kill myself. Irony is, I was working a job that gives you insurance... if you get more than 20+ hours a week, regardless if you were full or part time. All part-timers would get between 10-18 hours, only management got 20+ hours.
Hopefully I'll get back to Europe soon. |
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| miamitranceman |
| quote: | Originally posted by Banora
I dunno, I've never been insured while living in the US. As a kid I used to get strep about three or four times a year, but had to deal with it because going to a doctor was out of the question.
I really need to go to a doctor and get my heart checked out... I've been having these very sharp, acute, stabbing pains on the left side of my chest every now and then, and I'll feel my heart make irregular beats sometimes. However (this has only happened in the past year a few times) I'll feel my heart beat, then this sensation of blood rushing back into my heart and I'll get very dizzy. What is it? if I know, and going to a doctor/specialist to find out won't do me much good when I am living on the streets in a cardboard box trying to pay the hospital bill.
I guess I'm a bit jaded about health care. In 2006 I was drugged at a party and my heart stopped. One ambulance ride later, ER visit, and 4 hour stay in ICU my bill was in the $10,000's, not counting 'other' bills and charges I somehow racked up while unconscious, then the suicide counseling service that was forced on me despite me stating over and over again I was drugged, I didn't try to kill myself. Irony is, I was working a job that gives you insurance... if you get more than 20+ hours a week, regardless if you were full or part time. All part-timers would get between 10-18 hours, only management got 20+ hours.
Hopefully I'll get back to Europe soon. |
Yikes. Hopefully you won't have to. ;) |
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| leph555 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Banora
I dunno, I've never been insured while living in the US. As a kid I used to get strep about three or four times a year, but had to deal with it because going to a doctor was out of the question.
I really need to go to a doctor and get my heart checked out... I've been having these very sharp, acute, stabbing pains on the left side of my chest every now and then, and I'll feel my heart make irregular beats sometimes. However (this has only happened in the past year a few times) I'll feel my heart beat, then this sensation of blood rushing back into my heart and I'll get very dizzy. What is it? if I know, and going to a doctor/specialist to find out won't do me much good when I am living on the streets in a cardboard box trying to pay the hospital bill.
I guess I'm a bit jaded about health care. In 2006 I was drugged at a party and my heart stopped. One ambulance ride later, ER visit, and 4 hour stay in ICU my bill was in the $10,000's, not counting 'other' bills and charges I somehow racked up while unconscious, then the suicide counseling service that was forced on me despite me stating over and over again I was drugged, I didn't try to kill myself. Irony is, I was working a job that gives you insurance... if you get more than 20+ hours a week, regardless if you were full or part time. All part-timers would get between 10-18 hours, only management got 20+ hours.
Hopefully I'll get back to Europe soon. |
thats ed up :wtf: |
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| Omega_Blue |
| quote: | Originally posted by idoru
I've noticed the same thing, and for good reason: nobody picks it up because it's just not the greatest option. :p
But really, I'd consider the Heath bar to be the "cult classic" of candy bars. The populous doesn't "get it" but there's a tiny group of people that think it's the best thing since Mario's Kim Jong-Il thread. |
:stongue: i see your point. |
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| Omega_Blue |
| quote: | Originally posted by Banora
I dunno, I've never been insured while living in the US. As a kid I used to get strep about three or four times a year, but had to deal with it because going to a doctor was out of the question.
I really need to go to a doctor and get my heart checked out... I've been having these very sharp, acute, stabbing pains on the left side of my chest every now and then, and I'll feel my heart make irregular beats sometimes. However (this has only happened in the past year a few times) I'll feel my heart beat, then this sensation of blood rushing back into my heart and I'll get very dizzy. What is it? if I know, and going to a doctor/specialist to find out won't do me much good when I am living on the streets in a cardboard box trying to pay the hospital bill.
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you gotta get that checked out. i have had similar symptoms like yours to a much, much lesser extent, and my doctor (at the time, when i had insurance a year ago) thought i had high blood pressure. not ridiculously high, but high enough to where if it didn't go down by itself i'd have to be put on medication. at 24 years old :( then i lost my insurance and never got the opportunity to follow-up with him :/ |
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| Banora |
| quote: | Originally posted by Omega_Blue
you gotta get that checked out. i have had similar symptoms like yours to a much, much lesser extent, and my doctor (at the time, when i had insurance a year ago) thought i had high blood pressure. not ridiculously high, but high enough to where if it didn't go down by itself i'd have to be put on medication. at 24 years old :( then i lost my insurance and never got the opportunity to follow-up with him :/ |
I don't have high blood pressure according to those little blood pressure stations that are in our local grocery store... they always say I am borderline under pressure. :stongue:
But really, I noticed a lot of this... okay all of these problems have been since that incident in 2006 (heart stopping twice, when they got it beating my heart rate at the most was at 40 and I had to get put on a breathing machine). I'd love to follow up with them as well, but I can only imagine how much it would cost. |
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| Comrade Stalin |
| quote: | Originally posted by Capitalizt
Why should anyone have to earn food? Why should people need to pay for shelter, clothing, transportation, etc? Why should anyone have to earn a living? These things are needed by everyone. Should we declare them entitlements? If not, why not? |
Food stamps. Homeless shelters. There is public transportation but life and death don't depend on transportation. People earn a living for obvious reasons which I won't bother naming because you already know. Healthcare has become the preeminent issue of social injustice in this country, and only government can rectify it. When an insurance oligopoly controls the market, capitalism is in that sector at least, is practically dead. Or rather, it's almost reached its natural outcome. I prefer a government monopoly over a private one any day. |
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| Omega_Blue |
| quote: | Originally posted by Comrade Stalin
Food stamps. Homeless shelters. There is public transportation but life and death don't depend on transportation. People earn a living for obvious reasons which I won't bother naming because you already know. Healthcare has become the preeminent issue of social injustice in this country, and only government can rectify it. When an insurance oligopoly controls the market, capitalism is in that sector at least, is practically dead. Or rather, it's almost reached its natural outcome. I prefer a government monopoly over a private one any day. |
is this krypton or comrade stalin talking? |
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| Comrade Stalin |
| quote: | Originally posted by Omega_Blue
is this krypton or comrade stalin talking? |
The PDD outed Comrade Stalin, bastards. |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lilith
An average of 195,000 people in the USA died due to potentially preventable, in-hospital medical errors in each of the years 2000, 2001 and 2002, according to a new study of 37 million patient records that was released today by HealthGrades, the healthcare quality company.
The report apparently shows there are 2,000 deaths/year from unnecessary surgery; 7000 deaths/year from medication errors in hospitals; 20,000 deaths/year from other errors in hospitals; 80,000 deaths/year from infections in hospitals; 106,000 deaths/year from non-error, adverse effects of medications - these total up to 225,000 deaths per year in the US from iatrogenic causes which ranks these deaths as the # 3 killer. Iatrogenic is a term used when a patient dies as a direct result of treatments by a physician, whether it is from misdiagnosis of the ailment or from adverse drug reactions used to treat the illness. (drug reactions are the most common cause).
Third leading cause of death in the United States.
Good job :/ |
One of the points of that article was that with vague faceless politicians/buerecrats in charge, nobody is being held responsible for the horrors taking place at that NHS hospital. Would that happen here? no. You're talking like 1200 people dying unnecessarily because of substandard care in one hospital alone doesn't reflect at all on the NHS... because of the statistics you produced for America, which has a substantially larger population than the UK. The health care system there, in Canada, etc. is a financial leviathan growing larger and larger and is unsustainable. Why do you think that those same problems won't happen here?
Knowing the facts that every single government social welfare/entitlement program balloons to exponential costs far beyond any "thought to be" realistic estimate in the beginning, what kind of stupid sucker actually believes this bill will improve quality, efficiency, access, reduce the deficit, and lower health care costs when you dump 30 million people into the system? So ing dumb.
And enough already with the insurance company demonizing. It's such bull. They work on about a 2% profit margin and all the profits of all the insurance companies in this country COMBINED could sustain our healthcare system for 48 hours. |
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| The17sss |
p.s.- do you know who the biggest "insurer" in America is already? The government- Medicare and Medicaid. Do you know who denies more claims than any insurance company in America? Medicare and Medicaid- the government.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-bl...-rejection-rate
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