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Religious Groups Protest New Sex Ed Curriculum (pg. 9)
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| Silky Johnson |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jennifer_P_
it is a matter of public health that impacts society at-large. |
Exactly. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jennifer_P_
huh??????????
where-exactly will they be telling children they're ready for sex? |
| quote: | Human Development and Sexual Health. Human development and sexual health education
is more than simply teaching young people about the anatomy and physiology of
reproduction. Learning about healthy development, including sexual development,
requires an understanding of sexual health in its broadest context – sexual development,
reproductive health, interpersonal relationships, affection, abstinence, choice and sexual
readiness, protection, body image, and gender roles and expectations. Acquiring information
and skills and developing attitudes, beliefs, and values related to identity and relationships
are lifelong processes. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jennifer_P_
huh??????????
where-exactly will they be telling children they're ready for sex? |
| quote: | Human Development and Sexual Health. Human development and sexual health education
is more than simply teaching young people about the anatomy and physiology of
reproduction. Learning about healthy development, including sexual development,
requires an understanding of sexual health in its broadest context – sexual development,
reproductive health, interpersonal relationships, affection, abstinence, choice and sexual
readiness, protection, body image, and gender roles and expectations. Acquiring information
and skills and developing attitudes, beliefs, and values related to identity and relationships
are lifelong processes. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jennifer_P_
This is not a matter of morals ~ it is a matter of public health that impacts society at-large. |
I'm not so certain that 10 year olds being famiure with the terms "anal intercourse" and "vaginal lubrication" is really a public health issue.
Let's face the truth here; this has as much or more to do with socializing children to sexuality then it does anything else. The issue we're seeing is that there are few well defined societal values regarding sexuality in this country. This new curriculum is an attempt to create better defined and more consistant values a generation from now. The friction (pun intended) we're seeing now is a power struggle between progressive educators/social engineers and conservative parents over what those values should be and when they should be taught.
The problem I have with this is that there are some children that are not ready for certain things at a proscribed time. Curriculums are designed for the average child and there should be options or alternatives for children that do not fit the average (same issue I have with the all day kindergarten thing). Additionally, the government of the day should not dictate the values of a society; rather, the values of a society should dictate the government. On this issue; what should be taught is what the majority is agreeable to... my guess is that the mechanics of it all would be fine; however, attaching values to same should be out of scope. Ultimately though, if the conservative thinkers have actually done their jobs as parents correctly then what the school teaches will be of little consequence as the majority of ones core values should be well established prior to and outside of school. |
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| Jennifer_P_ |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
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hun - your comprehension skills suck. |
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| Silky Johnson |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
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You understand that "readiness" and "choice" most likely pertains to assertiveness training, right? As in, teaching kids how to say "no" if they aren't comfortable with sex, and how not to give into peer pressure to have sex?
See, if somebody had taught you a few things, you'd probably know that. ;) |
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| nacarter |
The reality is that the vast majority of parents are NOT prepared to talk about a wide range of sexual topics with their children. Think of how many parents are uncomfortable answering the inevitable "where do babies come from?" from a 6 year old. How well will this parent respond to "why does it feel good when I rub my penis?", or "how come my aren't as big as Jenny's?". How many parents even know what Chlamydia is? Or HPV? Or Candidiasis?
I lucked out. Four of my aunts were nurses and there was no awkwardness in discussing these topics with them. Most people aren't so lucky.
Should public schools teach a specific value orientation? Of course not, that is the role of families, churches, and the wider community. Unitarians developed the Our Whole Lives program to teach sex education from the liberal value orientation found within that denomination. By the way, OWL is far more comprehensive than ANYTHING taught in a public school. There's no reason that other faith communities can't do the same. Kids will go to a public school for FACTUAL, unbiased information, and can participate with their families and churches in a program more in line with the values that the parents want to espouse.
One thing that I would like to point out is that most teachers are not well prepared to teach sex education. Surveys of physical education teachers over a range of grades indicate that teachers are very uncomfortable teaching topics outside of basic biology. For this reason, I would like to see more public health professionals brought in to teach. Can you imagine an army of Sue Johanssons running sex-ed in Toronto? Kids might actually learn something and stop getting knocked up at 14. |
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| Jennifer_P_ |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
I'm not so certain that 10 year olds being famiure with the terms "anal intercourse" and "vaginal lubrication" is really a public health issue.
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I hate when people distort facts that are right infront of them to prove a point....
| quote: | Originally posted by Jennifer_P_
Re-read the article...
Grade 1 - 6 years-old - proper names of body parts
Grade 3 - 8 years-old - sexual identity and orientation
Grade 6 and 7 - 11 and 12 years-old - anal intercourse and vaginal lubrication
I have no issues with this and find it age-appropriate. Teaching children about sexual orientation breads tolerance at a young-age. Most gay people that I know have told me that they realized they were gay at a young age; dealing with the subject matter could very-well be a positive step.
I think we are forgetting what we knew at 11 and 12... They are not as sweet and naive as we might think - I know I wasn't and that was before the internet age.... |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jennifer_P_
I hate when people distort facts that are right infront of them to prove a point.... |
What? If I'm wrong I'm sorry; however, my understanding is that 6th graders are generally 9-10 years old. That said, even it most are 11 by grade six; I don't see how them being familure with those terms is a public health issue. Regardless, the line was a joke... honestly, you didn't see that?
BTW, it's interesting how you chose to focus on the joke I started my post with and ignored the substantive portion. |
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| Jennifer_P_ |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
BTW, it's interesting how you chose to focus on the joke I started my post with and ignored the substantive portion. |
argh ~ don't jump to conclusions - I'm not ignoring anything... at the moment I'm actually making an attempt to work lol.... |
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| Intangible |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jennifer_P_
argh ~ don't jump to conclusions - I'm not ignoring anything... at the moment I'm actually making an attempt to work lol.... |
haha welcome to TA ... your work will suffer :p |
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