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Your definition of a perfect "trance" track (pg. 3)
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Rodri Santos
Interesting from first second to last, a flowing melodic anthem that it's emotive and banging at the same time, and if it has a breakdown it's must be set there for a reason, not because trance "must" have a breakdown.
Trance-MB
Not easy to define a perfect trance track for me.
I think recent tracks like Jan Oostdyk - Heidi, Simon Patterson - Miss You (Original Mix) and Arctic Moon - True Romance (Original Mix) to me are pretty perfect.

But then looking that the fact I also think Scooter - Cosmos, Nylon Moon - Sky Plus, Jam & Spoon - Follow Me, Jones & Stephenson - First Rebirth and Quench - Dreams are prefect, one definition for a perfect track is hard to define.

P.v.D's For An Angel to me isn't perfect at all, never was, where A Love Letter for sure is.

EddieZilker
EddieZilker
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Originally posted by Trance-MB

P.v.D's For An Angel to me isn't perfect at all, never was, where A Love Letter for sure is.


You've GOT to be kidding. I scarcely think I've heard a more boring song. It certainly isn't anything close to what PvD's put up in terms of quality.
Rodri Santos
Gamemaster is the kind of track that you start tapping and end up jumping on your seat while listening, flawless mixing and progression.

I love some recent tracks:







What i find in a lot of trance today is that the 1st part before the breakdown it's incredibly boring, seems like it's there only to mix with the previous track, complete lack of effort.

With the breakdown there are amazing,decent,boring breakdowns, depend on the track, and the melodies are often simple arpeggios, this is where trance have lost a lot, the melodies seem like written by a 5 year old child.
Sykonee
My definition of a perfect trance track has already been done:

RebeL9
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Originally posted by Rodri Santos


What i find in a lot of trance today is that the 1st part before the breakdown it's incredibly boring, seems like it's there only to mix with the previous track, complete lack of effort.

With the breakdown there are amazing,decent,boring breakdowns, depend on the track, and the melodies are often simple arpeggios, this is where trance have lost a lot, the melodies seem like written by a 5 year old child.


why are you ASOT-crackers so obsessed with the breakdowns?
BradMiller
Of the 'recent era' - this is the most perfect in my books. +1 on Push - Strange World btw

Rodri Santos
because the breakdown is what tells you if the track is good or not in uplifting trance tracks, crap breakdown and build up means that the track has nothing to do.

My favourite breakdowns are of this kind

RebeL9
quote:
Originally posted by Rodri Santos
because the breakdown is what tells you if the track is good or not in uplifting trance tracks, crap breakdown and build up means that the track has nothing to do.

My favourite breakdowns are of this kind



a track can be very uplifting without any damn breakdowns. in fact it's often the breakdowns that makes the track crap, not mentioning that it makes the tracks undanceable. at least nowadays when the producers don't have any creative ideas at all.

noikeee
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Originally posted by pointPi

  • As long as possible, else it's not epic.
  • As unfunky as possible, I want the harmony to be steady and flowing rather than jumping and uneven. Still kinda breakbeat-ish groovy.
  • A long melody/chord progression as possible, at least 16 bars. It also has to be be very dramatic and cinematic.
  • Several different melodies/chord progression, all fulfilling the requirements from above point.
  • An overall agressive and adrenalinic bassline harmony/groove/rhythm.
  • The same thing with the whole drums and percussions mix. A full on groove.
  • An atmosphere with strong influence of both science fiction and fantasy.
  • A typical modern, uplifting "trance", pumping sound that simulates our blood pulse system. Although not to much umpa-umpa bass, that's too cheesy to me.
  • An about 0,5-3 minute long classical/minimalist/ambient intro with a very sad tone to it.
  • The club intro and club outro as got to be longer each than the breakdown.
  • The last part of the intro, right before the breakdown, is melodic. By that, I mean the basses and pads changes key, but not the main sequence(s). Think Humate - Love Stimulation.
  • A breakdown similar to the ambient intro, but with a more suggestive and tension-building approach to it.
  • The climax has to be out-of-this-world-explosive, surprising and dramatic. A sidechained supersaw pad is needed here IMO.
  • In between climax and outro, there's a calm and subtle part that gives a very Balearic mood and atmosphere with the light percs and dreamy synths, slowly crumpling down to nothing but a lone instrument playing the hookline with big reverberation and delay. When the reverberation has died out, the outro starts.
  • Influences from both industrial, percussion music, progressive rock, ambient, space ambient, folk, electro, EBM, hard acid techno, minimalism and microhouse (the only kind of house music I can dig).


I'd hate a track like that.
EddieZilker
Breakdowns are good for resting a crowd and building tension, but they are over-used. I prefer to make tracks without them but they are a necessary evil.
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