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DJs vs. Producers (pg. 12)
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| Vector A |
I can imagine an older chillout or lounge DJ not seeming so out of place, but when you have these fiftyish dudes up there in front of sweaty, screaming, pilled out late teens and all the flashing lights and pounding bass and that business, it does come off a bit absurd.
| quote: | Originally posted by cryophonik
It's sorta funny reading this discussion from a musician, non-DJ perspective. As musicians get older, the tendency is generally to stick with the music that you wrote/played in your prime (usually late teens through 20s), and your style just sorta gets stuck in time. Your audience generally ages with you, so when you're in your 40s and 50s, you're playing to a core audience that is more or less the same age bracket. |
Yep, I have noticed that.
Maybe it is just because the musicians' tastes never changed, but from the outside it looks like they (and maybe some of their fans, too) are trying to live out some fantasy of eternal youth. Old DJs definitely engage in more bandwagon jumping than your typical live musician. |
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| BritishLizard |
| "screaming, pilled out late teens" what clubs are you going to? There is way to much thought being put into this. Being both and being good at what you do sets you apart. A person that really knows about music (professional) can tell if you are full of pretty quickly. I really don't care how another producer or DJ is making their living, hell I'm happy for them making money doing what they love to do. Isn't that almost everyones goal in this world? Of course EDM is saturated with a bunch of , use that as a tool to make yourself stand out. Make yourself maketable, once they come knocking on your door you now have the bargaining chip. I'm going my own route and it has been working really good so far. |
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| Evolve140 |
| I saw Pete Tong a couple years ago. Pretty sure I rolled that night, and it was amazing. Small club, 200-300 people... El Paso, TX... My friend opened for him, and I think I ate the pill pretty late in the night. Pete played great music that night, and I loved it. maybe I got lucky? or maybe everyone is a ing know it all.... humbug... |
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| BritishLizard |
| Hey Evolve140 how long you been in the scene there in southern NM and El Paso? |
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| Evolve140 |
| I'm not really in the scene, but I know the people who are, and occasionally I make an appearance. Don't forget Juarez though. Was the best clubbing experience in hundreds of miles until the drug war started to the place up, it's making a little rebound now though. First gig in Juarez was in 2007, saw Andy Moor down there in 06 and I met some of my first friends from Mexico at that gig I still have to this day, so those are the earliest encounters. 5-6 years? |
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| Evolve140 |
| quote: | Originally posted by J.L.
Well, to draw an analogy, producers are the song writers and DJ's are the performers.
Some performers write their own songs too but people tend not to notice the work of someone who sits in a room away from public view who writes songs. |
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| richard_dekkard |
DJ's have to have a special talent to be any good. They have to be able to move the crowd through an emotional journey, an arrangement itself, during the night.
Bring them up.. gently let them rest, push them harder, let them release the energy, then bring home for the night.
That is something that only a good DJ knows how to do, and something a producer would have to learn to perform well as a DJ.
I myself, never had time to pursue dj'ing or performing really ( we'll see if that changes) and also had no problem watching Sasha, Digweed, PVD, or Kimball Collins drop the tune in the club and get the crowd crazy. That being said, nowadays is different, and its a lot easier to get music (beatport) and put together a laptop rig and ableton or traktor.
Some DJ's have plenty to contribute in the studio. Do they all? uhhh. no... not even close. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| quote: | Originally posted by Evolve140
I saw Pete Tong a couple years ago. Pretty sure I rolled that night, and it was amazing. Small club, 200-300 people... El Paso, TX... My friend opened for him, and I think I ate the pill pretty late in the night. Pete played great music that night, and I loved it. maybe I got lucky? or maybe everyone is a ing know it all.... humbug... |
Yup, the drugs had absolutely nothing to do with it. So much so that you seem to give us a play by play analysis of your drug intake for the night. Pretty sure any dj would of blown your mind. |
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| BritishLizard |
| quote: | Originally posted by Evolve140
I'm not really in the scene, but I know the people who are, and occasionally I make an appearance. Don't forget Juarez though. Was the best clubbing experience in hundreds of miles until the drug war started to the place up, it's making a little rebound now though. First gig in Juarez was in 2007, saw Andy Moor down there in 06 and I met some of my first friends from Mexico at that gig I still have to this day, so those are the earliest encounters. 5-6 years? |
I know about Juarez I used to play down there at various clubs and for the Pastilla Digital events. |
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| Evolve140 |
| quote: | Originally posted by BritishLizard
I know about Juarez I used to play down there at various clubs and for the Pastilla Digital events. |
Nice, did you have fun? |
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| Evolve140 |
| They really know how to party down there. |
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