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2012.11.22 Paul van Dyk, Tritonal + Super8 & Tab at Pacha on Thanksgiving (pg. 11)
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Burak14
quote:
Originally posted by Dany Veltri
Fun times. 2 hours was kinda short but at least he kept the cheese to a minimum. Anyone recognize this song?



great song, very catchy. i looked all over and couldn't find anything. has pvd written all over it, probably a new track by him.
CarS
quote:
Originally posted by lcl7
It really is a shame that 3 hours is them most we'll get out of a DJ these days.


agreed, but there are still exceptions:
Liebing did ~5h at Pacha...

Part of the problem MAY be the common:
lets-book-a-bunch-of-names thing

True, which is the cart or the horse I don't know, but do most DJ's say:
"I'll only do 2-3h, so you better find someone else to fill the time"
or do the promoters do it this way to satisfy some "variety" need of their audience?

The latter wouldn't surprise me one bit.

This is not just a thing in the electronic sphere, same thing with indie bands, jam-tronica.
Maybe our short-attention span culture is to blame?
a.l.d.i.
nope. they ask for 2 hr max. most of djs do this.

they know their name will fill so they book 2 hrs to play producers set with they try to sell on beatport
Lufelia
quote:
Originally posted by CarS
jam-tronica

I would like to know more about this.
CarS
quote:
Originally posted by Lufelia
I would like to know more about this.


I was only trying to refer to events put on with non DJs/Producers, that also often have multiple acts on the bill.

with jam-tronica I meant outfits such as
the Biscuits
EOTO
Conspirator
Lotus
STS9
Kick Rocks
Particle
Emancipator
just to rattle off a bunch.
(sorry if I am misusing the term...)

As an example: If I go to STS9, I would much rather see them do 4,or 5, or+h marathons, than a 2-3h set, with that being preceeded by other acts, that will usually get 1h or so.

I don't usually MIND those other acts, the pairings are mostly complimentary, and I do get the benefit of exposure to stuff I might not know so well.

(as a brief aside, because it was really funny, at City Bisco, second night, A-Trak had the inbetween set during the DBs (about a 1h slot.) guy two rows back of me booed just about the whole time, and did both hands thumbs down for most of that too. I can appreciate such dedication, even when I completely didn't agree with the sentiment...)

But for variety, I prefer festis and after-parties, and the "opener" can stay at home.
Wishful thinking, I know!

(avatar shows my vantage point?)
matt167698
quote:
Originally posted by Burak14
great song, very catchy. i looked all over and couldn't find anything. has pvd written all over it, probably a new track by him.


damn would love to know what track this is... you're right though. 100% a pvd song.
Dream Beamz
here was the best I got on video, the rest was spent dancing. I had to go to the Netherlands the next day so I was happy for the 2 hour set. Plus besides "It's such a feeling" there was not much room for any cheese with the 2 hour set. Good night and fun crowd

Dany Veltri
quote:
Originally posted by a.l.d.i.
nope. they ask for 2 hr max. most of djs do this.

they know their name will fill so they book 2 hrs to play producers set with they try to sell on beatport


Not sure that's 100% accurate.
a.l.d.i.
hmm . can dispute with you. i should have stated that's my opinion. personally i know most of big name djs ask for 2 hrs. especially well recognized ones. i am guessing due to next day tour days most of djs want to cut it short so they can not rush to the next venue. they think they can give the crowd what they want in 2 hrs. i am talking about big names that fill the venue.
a.l.d.i.
quote:
Originally posted by a.l.d.i.
hmm . can't dispute with you. i should have stated that's my opinion. personally i know most of big name djs ask for 2 hrs. especially well recognized ones. i am guessing due to next day tour days most of djs want to cut it short so they don't have to rush to the next venue. they think they can give the crowd what they want in 2 hrs. i am talking about big names that fill the venue.

Lufelia
quote:
Originally posted by CarS
with jam-tronica I meant outfits such as
the Biscuits
EOTO
Conspirator
Lotus
STS9
Kick Rocks
Particle
Emancipator
just to rattle off a bunch.
(sorry if I am misusing the term...)

Yeah, this is what I was wanting to know. Never heard the term before, I was intrigued. Haven't checked out too much of your list, but so far I particularly dig STS9.

quote:
Originally posted by CarS
(avatar shows my vantage point?)

It makes a bit more sense now. Don't see too many Deadheads in this scene. :p It's cool to see a combination of two seemingly very different genres.
CarS
quote:
Originally posted by Lufelia
...I particularly dig STS9.


oh yeah, their recent two night stay at Best Buy was a lot of fun.
BTW:
Emancipator is a side project of members of STS9, and they are at Irving Plaza on 2-1-13.
Well worth checking out, esp. as you like the mother-group sound.


quote:
It makes a bit more sense now. Don't see too many Deadheads in this scene. :p It's cool to see a combination of two seemingly very different genres.


In a way, these bands have done a lot of bringing people together with ther festivals, especially the Disco Biscuits and also String Cheese Incident (of which EOTO is a side-project, and they did make it to E-Zoo, to a woefully undersized crowd).

Look at the line-up of Camp Bisco and Electric Forrest to see this.
You don't get the straight-up techno so much at these festivals, but house, dubstep, etc is really present.
H
However, I still wonder at the number of haters from either side that go to these things:
you'll see Biscuit people at Camp (usually more the tie-dye crowd) not really liking most of the dance stuff, and the dance people not liking the Biscuits and other instrument groups.
I never see why, it's all great to me, SO LONG as it's done well and doesn't pander to commercial aspects (take that Guetta, SHM, and so on)

For me, the melding of all this is in the concept and origin of both:
acid-tests in the 60s
raves in the 80s/90s and so on.

True, the music was very very different, as was the drug(s) of choice.
In a way though, the difference between LSD and E goes somewhat towards explaining the difference in the music that accompanied the trips, to use the 60s word.
(leaving out the blow, that's disco :-) )

Seaking of acid tests: read Tom Wolfe's "Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test" for good insight into the old escape/search

If you're into mind-expanding music that you might not know, let me know, can give you some tips... (can't guarantee you'll like, jazz is my no-go genre for ex.)
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