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The Gay Thread (pg. 13)
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| trancEyes22 |
"go get my tampax"????
what are you, 15 |
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| AnGeLicK |
I can't believe how ignorant, misinformed, biggoted, and just plain retarded some people are on this thread.
There is a lot of talk about we have to be in the norm of society and that homosexuality isn't normal, etc. I heard a speaker once say that being normal is just being the highest case of average. Sorry but being average doesn't agree with me too much. Besides who said being inside the norms of society was good anyway. If everyone did everything the same old way nothing new would happen, and society would become stagnant. The greatest discoveries of our time happened because people didn't listen to the norm and listened to what they believed and knew to be true. Trust me normalcy doesn't always mean that it is right. The earth is not the center of the universe and evilution does exist.
Sidenote: Evolution (Male / Female Compatibilty)
Last time I checked we came from microscopic proto-life that didn't have any sex and reproduced through mitosis. The only reason sex was introduced into the equation was because it introduced variation and adaptation into life of a particular species. What if evolution took a different path? Who is to say that homosexuality is not an intended variation?
Homosexuality is as much genetic as it's environmental. I once knew gay identical twins. They were both quite effeminate, but I believe you have to take people for the sum of their parts and not judge them solely one issue. Last time I checked the typical stereotypes are changing. I have gay friends you could spot from a mile away and other you wouldn't know unless they told you. I have seen straight men dress (quite well) and I have gay friends who couldn't coordinate if their lives depended on it. Does that make them any more/less gay? I have acted "gay" since I was 5. I definitely didn't learn about because I didn't know anything about homosexuality until my parents took me to see the movie Philadelphia. I only understood the movie recently when I watched a year back. Homosexuality wouldn't be something I would have chosen, but instead of trying to change something I can't change, I try to help change what I know I can. That is what gay pride parades are about. It is about a community getting together and accepting each other in a world with people that will not accept them.
In response to the TAs who said that they wouldn't want homosexuals to touch them and/or hit on them. My response is "Grow Up!" Not every women in the world likes being hit on by every straight guy in sight. So big deal! A gay guy hit on you. Just say you aren't interested and go on your way. I am sure you've probably had a similar rejection from the opposite sex. And not every homosexual is a sex-crazed manic that is on the prowl for some action. Wait did I just describe a typical straight college frat boy? My mistake.
I believe that gays (being one) should have the right to marry for many reasons. Many major corporations support domestic partner benefits because they realize that the GLBT community is worth supporting. Marriage also gives over 1000 benefits to couples. It includes more than tax breaks. (Some straight couples don't want kids while other get married to put them in a lower tax bracket. Does that make them liable to lose their benefits?) It includes power of attorney, inheritance, and many other legal aspects that are not covered today in many same-sex couples. Besides at least these "marriages" (I use the term loosely) are ones made because of the love. Who cares that they are the same sex? Marriage, originally, was never about love. They were originally used as political tools and the merging of two families assests together. You can call it whatever you want: marriage, union, partnership. If not in the religious sense, then in the financial sense marriages should be allowed.
There is nothing inherently wrong with 2 gay men adopting a child and raising it on their own. There are many reasons why they shouldn't and I will try to refute them.
People believe that there kids will be traumatized because their parents are gay.
Well I wonder why? If current attitudes persist and are passed down to children then obviously there is a chance that they might be ridiculed. Kids pick on anything thats different because it doesn't fit their view of normalcy. Let me guess where there view of normalcy came from. People aren't born with prejudice, hate, and bigotry. It's instilled.
You need to have a mother and a father.
What about single parents? I didn't hear anyone complain that single parents shouldn't have kids. Furthermore, who is to say you need a "father" and a "mother." I thought you needed "parents." Good parenting is determined by love, compassion, and understanding. It didn't say you had to be straight.
You need to have breast milk.
Many straight couples opt not to give their children breast milk. So this point is moot.
The kid will turn gay.
Considering that many straight couples have gay children, I don't see how a gay couple has any more likelihood of having gay children than of having straight children.
The kid will be abused.
Last time I checked pedophiles were usually straight. Besides they wanted a kid because they wanted to give their love (platonic) to another human being. To take a child that wasn't wanted and give it a loving home. I don't see anything inherently wrong with that.
So remember...the world is full of enough hate...it has to stop somewhere
My whole $1 |
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| trancEyes22 |
^^^^ amen! i back u up 110%
now be prepared to be flamed by all the uninformed, ignorant people in here :whip: |
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| trancedfarmer |
| yay! another gay TA! good comments. i was feeling a little lonely in here... |
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| trancEyes22 |
| quote: | Originally posted by trancedfarmer
yay! another gay TA! good comments. i was feeling a little lonely in here... |
hehe i agree with both of you all the way....my best friend is gay so its a sensitive subject for me |
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| AnGeLicK |
| already am :: primps and applies powder to nose :: :haha: |
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| trancedfarmer |
| how old are u? im almost 19 |
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| Muff2K |
;ppl, the fight for gay rights/gay equality has made it's point.
they are a recognized people and are still fighting for complete equality
i completely agree that all people are equal, however it's not the issue here
as it has been stated by many gay backers, it's genetics that make one homosexual
it's also genetics that make some people deaf, blind, and born with various other handicaps
you can say that those people are still normal, but special in their own way. BUT they are still called handicapped and 'special' because they are not like the majority of human beings. being deaf, blind etc. is just another birth defectm so we can consider being gay a birth defect.
so we accept the less fortunate into society right?
as we should accept gays into our society as the sexually handicapped
:)
let the flaming begin, but remember, i do make a good point |
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| trancEyes22 |
| you make a good point? i fail to see that...so what you're saying is that gay people are disabled?! |
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| Muff2K |
| quote: | Originally posted by trancEyes22
you make a good point? i fail to see that...so what you're saying is that gay people are disabled?! |
in a way yes
i'm just staing that everyone who backs gays / supports gays is saying that's it's something that they are born with
just like being born blind. you can't help it right?
but that's not the way you should be born, all genes functioning properly would make a person have eyesight right??
in other words, being gay is abnormal |
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| decibel08 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Muff2K
;ppl, the fight for gay rights/gay equality has made it's point.
they are a recognized people and are still fighting for complete equality
i completely agree that all people are equal, however it's not the issue here
as it has been stated by many gay backers, it's genetics that make one homosexual
it's also genetics that make some people deaf, blind, and born with various other handicaps
you can say that those people are still normal, but special in their own way. BUT they are still called handicapped and 'special' because they are not like the majority of human beings. being deaf, blind etc. is just another birth defectm so we can consider being gay a birth defect.
so we accept the less fortunate into society right?
as we should accept gays into our society as the sexually handicapped
:)
let the flaming begin, but remember, i do make a good point |
oh .. my .. god
i did not just read this, did i ? why must i be addicted to these forums...
| quote: | Originally posted by trancedfarmer
yay! another gay TA! good comments. i was feeling a little lonely in here... |
it's a frustrating dialogue, if you want to call it that, but we're here
--dannyB-- |
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| Arbiter |
| quote: | | but that's not the way you should be born, all genes functioning properly would make a person have eyesight right?? |
Define "properly" please.
You seem to be indicating indicating intent where none exists. |
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